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Britain
Terror suspect 'ran jihad web network' from South London; faces extradiction to US
2005-03-03
A British computer expert ran websites raising cash and recruiting fighters for the Taleban and the Chechen Mujahidin, an extradition hearing was told yesterday. Babar Ahmad allegedly operated websites in the United States that revealed links to Shamil Basayev, the Chechen leader behind the Beslan school attack. There was also advice on smuggling cash to the Taleban, and Muslims were urged to take arms training for a jihad. Mr Ahmad, 30, of Tooting, South London, is fighting extradition on five charges stretching from 1997 to 2004 alleging that he used websites to incite the murder of US servicemen in Afghanistan and elsewhere.

At the start of a two-day hearing, John Hardy, for the US Government, said that the websites "sought and invited and solicited contributions to terrorist causes in Afghanistan and Chechnya". The material inciting murder in both the countries and elsewhere was "established, operated and maintained by this defendant", he told Tim Workman, the senior district judge at Bow Street Magistrates' Court. Muslims were told that "military training is an Islamic obligation, not an option" and it was suggested that they should get hold of weapons such as AK47s.

One of the websites, named after the spiritual teacher of Osama bin Laden, announced that it had been set up "to propagate the cause of jihad among Muslims who are sitting down ignorant", Mr Hardy said. The website said that the best way to help would be to "go to the lands of jihad" to fight. The website included a disclaimer suggesting that there was no suggestion of promoting illegal action. Mr Hardy said that this was "manifest nonsense".

Potential militants were told that they should read US military manuals and the memoirs of British soldiers, take martial arts training and learn knife fighting. Recruits were urged to be discreet and advised to make contact with veteran fighters who had come home. Website readers were also told: "The most important thing a Muslim can do in the West is raise money."

Edward Fitzgerald, QC, for Mr Ahmad, asked the court to consider whether the Act allowing extradition was at odds with an extradition treaty signed in 1972. The treaty requires prima facie evidence but the Act under which Mr Ahmad faces extradition does not. Mr Fitzgerald said that the definition of terrorism as "an act of violence for political ends" was far too broad. On that basis he said: "One would say President Bush was a terrorist. He is constantly concerned in violence with political ends."

Looking at the charges, Mr Fitzgerald said that the Taleban were the de facto Government in Afghanistan, and Chechnya was invaded by the Russians despite a peace treaty in 1998. The Mujahidin were acting in self-defence. Mr Fitzgerald said that there was also a danger that once in the United States Mr Ahmad could be held indefinitely without trial by the military. Legislation allows a president to sign an order designating a foreigner as an enemy combatant and send him to a military prison or a military tribunal.

Scores of protesters, including Martin Mubanga, the former Guantanamo Bay detainee, gathered in Bow Street to support Mr Ahmad. The hearing continues.
Posted by:Bulldog

#10  no pics of Babar?
Posted by: Frank G   2005-03-03 8:27:15 PM  

#9  Braniac? He's a high-fiber villain?
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-03-03 8:24:53 PM  

#8  Early version of Braniac.
Posted by: Fred   2005-03-03 8:09:55 PM  

#7  That can't be the Martian ManHunter... he's a good guy!
Posted by: Shipman   2005-03-03 4:24:55 PM  

#6   So what took the coppers so long?
Making a list of who visited the site more than likely.
Posted by: Steve   2005-03-03 1:44:42 PM  

#5  They did take their time in meeting that badboy. If I am not mistaken, the website to which they refer had been in operation for a very long time and was fairly straight forward in its recruiting and fund raising. The most interesting part of it was how the site was linked to all kinds of well organized jihadi sites which shared ideology and a general party line as well as a similar type of site design and layout. A friend in Baku told me about the website almost a decade ago during a conversation about backward religious freaks. If I recall correctly, the site also did big promotion of OBL when he was a PR peon. They also sold alot of inspirational tapes, books and videos about the referenced "teacher" of OBL as well as tall tales about Mujahadeen in Bosnia singlehandedly stopping whole hosts of serbs. They had a big focus on getting shaheed'd and how the holy warrior's corpse wouldn't rot or stink like everyone else when they died. There was a who's who of shaheeds from all over who died in each different "jihad land." They did alot of combat cam stuff from chechnya also. It was a well built fundraising and recruiting center. Khattab was portrayed like a real life rambo. So what took the coppers so long?
Posted by: Tkat   2005-03-03 12:42:24 PM  

#4  Ima think an introduction to subduction would be good in this case.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever)   2005-03-03 8:58:16 AM  

#3  Screw this crap off him on the street KGB style. A ricin umbrella dart would do nicely.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2005-03-03 6:54:13 AM  

#2  Doubtless another 'very nice boy'/'pillar of the community'. I say brice him.
Posted by: Howard UK   2005-03-03 5:57:19 AM  

#1  'Extradiction'? Gah!
Posted by: Bulldog   2005-03-03 5:12:03 AM  

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