Hirsi Ali
born Mogadishu, Somalia, 13 November 1969
Jules 187 : Ditto!
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| IHT/NYT: Tired of hiding, 2 Dutch legislators emerge |
| 2005-03-04 |
| Pair face threats for Muslim remarks  THE HAGUE Every evening, plainclothes police escort two members of the Dutch Parliament to armored cars and take them off to hiding places for the night. One of them, Geert Wilders, has been camping out in a cell in a high security prison where his life, he said, has become "like a bad B-movie." His colleague, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, has grown increasingly miserable spending weeks sleeping on a military base. The special treatment would certainly seem warranted: Both have received a deluge of death threats since they strongly criticized the behavior of militant Muslim immigrants in the Netherlands. After two previous political assassinations, Dutch officials are taking the threats seriously, treating the safety of the two lawmakers both as a matter of personal protection and as an issue of national security. Several politicians have said that in the country's present polarized mood, public violence could erupt if one of the legislators were killed. But their plans have been disturbed by the two Parliament members, who have chosen to disclose their whereabouts to protest the conditions under which they live. Neither has had a permanent home since November, when the filmmaker Theo van Gogh was shot and knifed to death on an Amsterdam street. A 26-year old Dutchman of Moroccan ancestry, Mohammed Bouyeri, has been charged with murder. The decision by Wilders and Hirsi Ali to disclose their secret lives, one in a jail cell, the other on a naval base, has raised a question that is troubling many Dutch: Is it acceptable for legislators in a Western democracy to be forced to go into hiding, to live like fugitives in their own land? "Of course this is an outrage," said Abram de Swaan, a prominent sociologist. "It's not bearable. The government must come up with better solutions like putting them in protected homes. That's the way it happens in other countries." The NRC, a leading daily newspaper, ran a recent editorial headlined "Unacceptable." A situation in which legislators are "hampered in carrying out their tasks puts democracy in question and makes terror successful," it said, adding that the official bureaucracy evidently "does not know how to deal with the new reality" in which Muslim terrorism may also threaten Dutch politicians. Officials point out that the government is prosecuting several men for launching death threats and has adopted tough laws against terrorism suspects, including voiding their Dutch nationality. And late last month, the Justice Ministry announced that it planned to expel three Muslim preachers for spreading radical Islamic ideology at a mosque in the city of Eindhoven. Wilders' isolation becomes quickly evident on a visit to his closely guarded office in the attic of the Dutch Parliament. In his small, windowless room, far from his colleagues, he can receive visitors only if they are carefully screened and escorted at all times. He no longer answers his own telephone, but the threats keeping showing up in his e-mail, in Internet chat rooms and Web logs. Offering some samples, he switched on his office computer and a short video appeared, featuring his photograph, the sound of gunfire over Arab music and a voice that said: "He is an enemy of Islam and should be beheaded." "The people who threaten us are walking around free and we are the captives," said Wilders. "I understand it, but it is also difficult to grasp." The government has told him that he will have to wait for a secure home until September. Until then, he said, he presumably has to continue his Spartan life, sleeping in a cell at Camp Zeist, deprived of family and friends. The security detail schedules weekly private meetings with his wife. Wilders, a rising right-wing politician, feels an affinity with neoconservatives in Washington and recently visited the United States "to gather ideas." An outspoken critic of Islamic fundamentalism, he contends that Islamic dogmas and democracy are incompatible, and has called for a temporary halt to "third-world immigration," the closing of radical mosques in the Netherlands and the preventive arrest of suspected terrorists, whom he has labeled "Islamo-facist thugs." It was Hirsi Ali, though, who first decided to go public with her own and Wilders's secret hiding places, out of frustration at the government's apparent foot-dragging over finding appropriate housing. Her own proposals were regularly rejected as unsafe, she said. Her bodyguards, she said, have deposited her on many weeknights on a naval base in Amsterdam, or hustled her off to sleep in different hotels. "I often don't know where they will take me," she said. "They are keeping me alive. But I cannot concentrate on my work. I need a place where I have my desk, my books, my papers, a home where I can meet with people," she said. In the past year, her handlers have twice taken her secretly to the United States. Hirsi Ali, a Somali-born refugee who arrived in the Netherlands in 1992 and became a member of Parliament in 2003, was under police protection even before the murder of van Gogh, with whom she had made a short television film that denounced violence against Muslim women. Some Muslims found it deeply offensive. The Dutch government pressed Hirsi Ali to go abroad for two months after van Gogh was killed and a letter was found on his corpse threatening her. When she returned to Parliament in January, she was warmly received by her colleagues. But the pressures continue. The wife of an Islamist militant who is in police custody told a local newspaper that Hirsi Ali, a former Muslim, would be slain by Muslim women. That would make more impact than being punished by a man, the woman said. "The sisters are patient," the woman said. They will wait, "even if it takes 10 years." Hirsi Ali concedes that she is struggling with the question of how long she can continue in politics, denouncing what she regards as the excesses of Islam. In the past she has shown she is not easily cowed, but she said a deep fatigue is setting in. "I am willing to sacrifice a great deal, but I don't know if I can live like this for a lot longer." She put her inexorable dilemma this way: "The real problem is, I cannot stop because that will only serve and stimulate the terrorists." Astounding. I wonder if the Government is doing this to show how helpless (and hopeless) they are. |
| Posted by:Mrs. Davis |
| #12 Hi little Troll! Have a cookie! |
| Posted by: Shipman 2005-03-04 7:44:49 PM |
| #11 BAR the Dutch invented the Speed Camera and have plenty of them. They still spend more time writing tickets then chasing criminals. |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-03-04 4:09:51 PM |
| #10 Hiding from what? "Islam is peace" said GWB, the American Allah. |
| Posted by: Cafiringus Perplexus 2005-03-04 3:53:08 PM |
| #9 I find it hard to believe Mr. Wilders has to hide out in a prison because it will take 6 months to find him a safe place. I suspect it is more likely that it is taking 6 months to find him a safe place as a warning to other politicians not to be so outspoken in theircomments about Muslims. This is Police enforced dhimmitude. |
| Posted by: Mrs. Davis 2005-03-04 12:54:12 PM |
| #8 He no longer answers his own telephone, but the threats keeping showing up in his e-mail, in Internet chat rooms and Web logs. Offering some samples, he switched on his office computer and a short video appeared, featuring his photograph, the sound of gunfire over Arab music and a voice that said: "He is an enemy of Islam and should be beheaded." "The people who threaten us are walking around free and we are the captives," said Wilders. "I understand it, but it is also difficult to grasp." The government has told him that he will have to wait for a secure home until September. Until then, he said, he presumably has to continue his Spartan life, sleeping in a cell at Camp Zeist, deprived of family and friends. The security detail schedules weekly private meetings with his wife. The "liberal" Dutch may end up with an extra-judicial "group" dispatching Islamonuts unless the intrangisent parliament does something. I find it hard to believe Mr. Wilders has to hide out in a prison because it will take 6 months to find him a safe place. He must be a member of some opposition party. If I were some of his co-party members I would scream loud and do something like a filibuster and shut down the parliament in Amsterdam. They don't do much, and since they have given up so much soverignty to Brussels, it wouldn't be a loss. |
| Posted by: BigEd 2005-03-04 12:41:25 PM |
| #7 Hirsi Ali born Mogadishu, Somalia, 13 November 1969 Jules 187 : Ditto! |
| Posted by: BigEd 2005-03-04 12:32:12 PM |
| #6 The Cops want to write tickets for speeding instead. Why bother with that? Take a cue from the Poms/Aussies, they just luuuuv their cameras. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2005-03-04 10:44:10 AM |
| #5 I would like to see Hirsi Ali become a truly international political activist for prosecuting the mistreatment of women in Islam. She doesn't need to stay in the Netherlands (unless she wants to). Come to the US, Ms. Ali, and continue your trailblazing work from here. At least half of our population would lift a finger to protect you, unlike in the Netherlands, where no one can be seen challenging the authority of Muslim rule. |
| Posted by: Jules 187 2005-03-04 9:44:59 AM |
| #4 I hope they find shelter in the US. People like that are welcome - and safe here. Opportunity abounds. |
| Posted by: 2b 2005-03-04 9:44:29 AM |
| #3 I don't suppose the Dutch government ever thought of finding those who are making the threats..... I think websters now has a pic to go along with their definition of Dhimmitude. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2005-03-04 9:04:06 AM |
| #2 No this is what protecting the militant allenists get you. The Dutch Justice department is more worried about it's budget and protecting a terrorist allenist minority than it is on protecting regular Dutch citizens let alone politicians under terrorist threats. The Cops want to write tickets for speeding instead. If you get robbed or carjacked by a "north african youth" don't hold your breath waiting for the cops to show up. If your wife or daughter is raped by one forget it. The person who did it will never be caught. The police don't even look. There is important work that must be done! Writing speeding ticklets that make money for the state. These politicains are just getting the same treatment the regular Dutch citizen gets. |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-03-04 8:49:58 AM |
| #1 This is where the road of tolerating the intolerant gets you. Hell. |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2005-03-04 8:27:35 AM |