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ACLU to keep tabs on protest
2005-03-21
The American Civil Liberties Union has warned the 950 volunteers expected to take part next month in an Arizona border vigil against illegal immigration that it is assigning monitors to ensure none of the aliens are abused. The warning came in the wake of meetings last week by five senators from Mexico's three political parties, who voiced their concerns to Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard, U.S. Attorney Paul Charlton, state legislators, civic leaders and the Arizona Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. "We're very worried about it," Sen. Sadot Sanchez Carreno of the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) and chairman of the Mexican Senate's human rights committee, told reporters in Phoenix. In the days following the meetings, Mexico filed a diplomatic note with the United States asking for assurances the volunteers, who begin their monthlong vigil April 1 as members of the "Minuteman Project," do not abuse Mexicans caught illegally entering the United States.
You don't want them "abused", keep them home.
Geronimo Gutierrez, undersecretary for North American affairs at Mexico's Foreign Ministry, wrote that actions by the volunteers "could be in violation of federal and state laws to the detriment of Mexican citizens," adding that Mexico did not want "the rights of its citizens transgressed." Meanwhile, the ACLU of Arizona announced it was training legal observers to follow and document the activities of the Minuteman volunteers. "The purpose of legal observers is to deter abuses, document the actions of these individuals and highlight the real tragedies that occur along the border," ACLU spokesman Ray Ybarra said. "Perhaps someday, we will live in a society where no human being will have to face death and hatred in pursuit of work that this country requires." Mr. Ybarra also said the organization will have lawyers on standby ready to file civil cases against the volunteers, who he described as "vigilantes" who will "attempt to take out their frustrations on a group of individuals who are simply in search of a better life." He said they could "come to our state as 'vigilantes' and end up leaving as 'defendants.'

James Gilchrist, a California accountant who organized the Minuteman Project, said the volunteers will be posted at 200-yard intervals a mile inside the border to observe illegal aliens coming into this country and report them to the U.S. Border Patrol, but will not confront them. "We are American citizens who want to freely assemble under the First Amendment to express our displeasure with federal, state and local appointees who have been charged with U.S. immigration laws and have left us wide open for another terrorist attack," Mr. Gilchrist said. Mr. Charlton, according to spokeswoman Sandy Raynor, told the Mexican lawmakers U.S. authorities also would monitor the volunteers and that "anyone who violates anyone else's civil rights within the United States will have to face punishment." Steve Wilson, spokesman for Mr. Goddard, said the attorney general told the legislators he had little jurisdiction over U.S. immigration laws or possible civil rights violations, but his office would seek to ensure no violence was aimed at the aliens or the volunteers.
The more the ACLU bitches about it, the more press coverage the protestors will get. Why, it's almost like they planned it that way.
Posted by:Steve

#12  BAR - In that case the ACLU and MSM will play *that* as the Miniutemen 'hiding something' instead of a landowner not wanting the ACLU on contaminating their property.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2005-03-21 10:29:01 PM  

#11  ..the majority of their volunteers will be on land that is privately owned with the ACLU not invited..

Don't count on the ACLU obeying a no trespassing edict or appropriate signage. An armed patrol would probably be necessary, whether it be the landowners themselves or qualified individuals under contract.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-03-21 9:28:16 PM  

#10  Actually Shipman, I think it was their wives that gave them the name.
Posted by: Thans Anginetch3773   2005-03-21 6:16:58 PM  

#9  I wish these guys would get a clue about PR.... the Minutemen Project? Is the Jolly John Bircher brigade ready for action? This is nutz.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-03-21 5:57:58 PM  

#8  I emailed a suggestion about the ACLU to the Minutemen Project and did receive an answer. They are not really worried about the ACLU given that the majority of their volunteers will be on land that is privately owned with the ACLU not invited and they also aren't too sure of these 'observers' being able to keep up and find them.

If you look over the MMP site, you'll see they intend each patrol to have *at least* one videocamera and they are under orders to avoid any contact with the illegals if they can. Procedure is for the patrols to simply report their location, numbers, etc to the MMP and to the Border Patrol.
Posted by: Silentbrick   2005-03-21 5:26:25 PM  

#7  I hope the Miniutemen are armed with Video. I think a video of the ACLU 'staging' an incident (and I do think that they are capable and willing to stage an incident) would be interesting (even if the MSM would never show it).
Posted by: CrazyFool   2005-03-21 1:54:28 PM  

#6  I would trade the Mexican government even up, 1 ACLU lawyer for each 10 illegals (I would do 1 to 1, but that would be too heavy a burden on Mexico), with the only provision that they have to keep the lawyers from recrossing the border for at least 10 years (or permanently, if they so chose, after all they are lawyers, not protected species like kangaroo rats). Financially, this would be a win - win.
Posted by: RWV   2005-03-21 12:58:10 PM  

#5  So long as the ACLU reps position themselves directly between the loaded bang sticks of the volunteers and the illegals...
Posted by: Hyper   2005-03-21 12:39:43 PM  

#4  Cheer-up,maybe we will get some video of these proto-communist,city bred tranzies stumbling around the Sonoran and Mojavi deserts.Should to be very intertaining.
Posted by: raptor   2005-03-21 12:17:34 PM  

#3  The American Civil Liberties Union has warned the 950 volunteers expected to take part next month in an Arizona border vigil against illegal immigration that it is assigning monitors to ensure none of the aliens are abused.

A few "warning shots across the bow" should suffice.

Geronimo Gutierrez, undersecretary for North American affairs at Mexico's Foreign Ministry, wrote that actions by the volunteers "could be in violation of federal and state laws to the detriment of Mexican citizens," adding that Mexico did not want "the rights of its citizens transgressed."

Keep 'em away from the border, preferably on the Mexico side, and nothing will happen.

Simple stuff, really.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-03-21 10:43:47 AM  

#2  The American Civil Liberties Union has warned [...] that it is assigning monitors to ensure none of the aliens are abused.

Who's going to ensure that the ACLU doesn't get abused? Hope there are a few barrow boy spivs in the group.
Posted by: BH   2005-03-21 10:03:07 AM  

#1  The big question is how many video cameras are going to be out there. Imagine movie after movie showing herds of illegals like in the Hollywood movie "Born in East L.A." But unlike the normal flood of illegals, most ordinary Mexicans will avoid that border crossing for a month--instead, many of the crossers will be looking for a fight. Crossing the border could soon be seen the same as when Poncho Villa attacked Columbus, New Mexico. Nothing quite like a few firefights to get peoples' attention.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2005-03-21 9:57:11 AM  

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