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Pentagon: Muslim Society Does Not Seek Freedom
2005-04-04
A U.S. Defense Department study has determined that Muslims in the Middle East do not yearn for freedom.
Thank you for today's statement of the obvious. We seldom yearn for the fruits we've never tasted.
A Pentagon advisory board has released a report that asserted that Muslims in dictatorial regimes do not seek freedom as those in countries that had been dominated by the Soviet Union after World War II. The board said that unlike those who lived in East Bloc states, Muslims do not see the United States as their liberator. "There is no yearning-to-be-liberated-by-the-U.S. groundswell among Muslim societies -- except to be liberated perhaps from what they see as apostate tyrannies that the U.S. so determinedly promotes and defends," the Pentagon board said in a report.
Most of the guys who want to do away with the apostate tyrannies want to replace them with devout tyrannies.
The 102-page report by the Defense Science Board reviewed U.S. information policy toward the Arab and Muslim world as part of an effort to stem the tide of anti-Americanism. The board concluded that Washington has failed to adequately explain its diplomatic and military policy to Muslims around the world.
Posted by:Fred

#17  We're not quite sure who Patty Ann Brown is. We think she might have been the little red haired girl's older sister.
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-04-04 11:59:25 PM  

#16  FoxNews - so's Kieran....rrrrooooowwrrr
Posted by: Frank G   2005-04-04 10:45:49 PM  

#15  Who is Patty Ann Brown?
Posted by: mom   2005-04-04 10:39:45 PM  

#14  Patti Ann Brown is the loving, mom-and-apple-pie image that our country wants to present. Wait until they see Kieran Chetry.

RowrrrRRRRrrrrr.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2005-04-04 10:28:55 PM  

#13  #11
The point, IMO, you can't go from Moslem culture to Liberal Democracy. First, you've to completely erase Moslem culture---say a 100 year when only women are allowed to hold official posts + first cousins marriages are a capital offense.
Posted by: gromgoru   2005-04-04 7:54:15 PM  

#12  I think FrankG has his local attractor in the "On" position - and it's pointed directly at Patti Ann Brown, heh.

Everything I've tried adding on after this sounds so, um, crass...
;-)
Posted by: .com   2005-04-04 3:38:45 PM  

#11  I used to know more about chaos theory in the past than now.
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-04-04 1:30:24 PM  

#10  So, I guess, it is not a matter of "People in dictatorships don't give their honest opinions." but rather a matter of Moslems rejecting the values of liberal democracy.
Phil, are you familiar with the term local attractor?
Posted by: gromgorru   2005-04-04 1:12:42 PM  

#9  So let's check with Moslems who live in the West.

Hmm. The West is FULL of people who religiously believe that freedom is worthless, or (for the purposes of someone wanting to convince Moslems that western-style freedom is worthwhile) can be used to justify honor killings of their own.
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-04-04 12:17:13 PM  

#8  Zhang Fei
No real surprise here. People in dictatorships don't give their honest opinions.
So lets check with Moslems who live in the West.
Posted by: gromgorru   2005-04-04 11:52:38 AM  

#7  No real surprise here. People in dictatorships don't give their honest opinions. Note also that the Pentagon hires all kinds of anti-American types to do studies for it, so that it can get to know the enemy's arguments.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2005-04-04 10:42:20 AM  

#6  Waitasec. There is a subtle parse in here: "There is no yearning-to-be-liberated-by-the-U.S...", could also mean that they *want* to be liberated, not just with a destructive invasion--which is common sense, if you think about it. And it also may be particular to the U.S., that is, Syria, for example, has deep ties with the French; whereas they only know about Americans via hateful propaganda. So they would probably favor some kind of mythical "French liberation", as if such a thing could happen. But to *assume* that they don't want to be liberated at all may be way too much to assume.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2005-04-04 10:41:05 AM  

#5  Except for Patty Ann Brown, of course...
Posted by: Fred   2005-04-04 10:31:55 AM  

#4  Lebanon is half Christian.
Posted by: JFM   2005-04-04 9:58:07 AM  

#3  Glad to see somebody has some sense of reality left.
Posted by: gromgorru   2005-04-04 9:54:04 AM  

#2  If this is true, explain Lebanon.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-04-04 9:36:48 AM  

#1  We seldom yearn for the fruits we've never tasted.

3 words, Master Fred: Patti Ann Brown
Posted by: Frank G   2005-04-04 9:30:48 AM  

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