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Home Front: Culture Wars
Pope Predictors claim end is nigh; sell your Treasuries.
2005-04-29
ROME (Reuters) - Pope Benedict's ascent to the papacy took a conclave of 115 cardinals, four rounds of voting and followed a lifetime of service to the Vatican. But ask Internet doomsayers eyeing a 12th century Catholic prophecy and they'll tell you it was all stitched up more than eight centuries ago and that judgment day is nigh.
Maybe this will boost efforts to reform Social Security...
The prophecy -- widely dismissed by scholars as a hoax -- is attributed to St. Malachy, an Irish archbishop recognized by members of the Church for his ability to read the future.
Hiccup! I saw it myself!
Benedict, believers say, fits the description of the second-to-last pope listed under the prophecy before the Last Judgement, when the bible says God separates the wicked from the righteous at the end of time. "The Old Testament states: 'believe his prophets and you will prosper' -- so believe it. We are close to the return of the Judge of the nations. Christ is coming," wrote one Internet post by the Rev. Pat Reynolds.
Get the milk and cookies ready, Ethyl!
"Thank God for the witness of St. Malachy."

St. Malachy was said to have had a vision during a trip to Rome around 1139 of the remaining 112 Popes. The new pope would be number 111 on that list, and is described in a text attributed to St. Malachy as the "Glory of the Olive." To connect Benedict, a pale, bookish German, to anything olive takes some imagination. But Malachy-watchers point to the choice of the name Benedict -- an allusion to the Order of Saint Benedict, a branch of which is known as the Olivetans.
And off this branch, you see Karl Rove...Or the Trilateral Commission.
"When (he) chose the name Benedict XVI, this was seen as fulfilling the prophecy for this pope," wrote one entry on www.wikipedia.org.
Aris strikes again!
Benedict said that he chose the name partly in honor of Pope Benedict XV (1914-1922), calling him a "courageous prophet of peace." On Wednesday, Benedict dedicated his papacy to "the service of reconciliation and harmony between peoples." "Perhaps Benedict XVI will be a peacemaker in the Church or in the world, and thus carry the olive branch," speculated www.catholic-pages.com.
It's all ov...wait, why is that a sign of the end?
Another site, www.bibleprobe.com, went even further, showing a picture of Benedict holding olive branches in March during Palm Sunday celebrations. "Is this the Pope of Peace (olive)?" it asked in the caption.

Critics widely dismiss the Malachy prophecy as a forgery and possible propaganda meant to influence a 16th century conclave. Doses of skepticism even appear on the most energetic Malachy web pages. But believers point out similarities between the prophecy's descriptions and past pontificates. Pope John Paul II, number 110, was described in the prophecy as "de labore solis" -- or "of the labor of the sun." He was born on May 18, 1920, the same day as a solar eclipse. The pontiff was buried on April 8, 2005 -- the same day as a partial eclipse, visible in the Americas.
Watch out, they might fall into their own navels.
More pressing for doomsayers are the prophecy's references to the last Pope on the list, Peter the Roman, who will lead the Church before "the formidable judge will judge his people."

Since Benedict is already 78 years old, they say Peter the Roman must be coming soon, and with him, the end of the world. "His reign will only last a few years at most. This signals that we are living in what may be the end of days as we know it," said one Web Site entry by someone calling himself SmartBob.
SMARTBOB PREDICTS APOCALYPSE!
Posted by:Mahmoud, the Weasel

#15  Just as there is no contradiction between God and science, only mankind's inability [ or refusal?] to comprehend, as the saying goes, so also there is nothing wrong with NOSTRY, only man's failure to comprehend his codes. As Nostry himself alluded, only God or the Servants of God can truly understand and interprete his meanings. Since the true threat to America vv 9-11 is Socialism, OWG and Commie World Order, the real threat to Catholicism, JudeoChristianity, and world religion in general is REGULATION-BASED, GLOBAL SECULARISM-SECULARIST ABSOLUTISM - post 9-11 America already has BILL MAHER and other Lefty commentators belabeling God and Religion as "FAKES", besides also media-blitzing crimes amongst white America to justify REGULATION, SUPER-REGULATION, and ever more HYPER-REGULATION, FOR EMPIRE AND BIG, BIG, BIG-G-G-ER WELFARE GOVERNMENTISM. You know the Failed Left - America must MUst MUST M-U-S-T-T-T create Global Empire, ergo America can't be allowed to govern its own newfound Empire, silly boy!?
Posted by: JOsephMendiola   2005-04-29 10:21:26 PM  

#14  Old Spook: Amen to that!
Posted by: xbalanke   2005-04-29 8:06:23 PM  

#13  This study was published in the Lancet, right?
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-04-29 7:03:28 PM  

#12  I have the end-of-the-world scheduled in my PDA for.....lets see...... July 23, 2028 at 3:14 AM (PDT).

(Margin of error: 2 - 3,000 years or so.)
Posted by: CrazyFool   2005-04-29 7:00:50 PM  

#11  Xbalanke - it depends on how thin you want to slice the baloney.

Evenutally they get to debating what the meaning of "is" is; at which time they are lost.

Better to take the scriptures at both their literal value and anagogical sense:

As believers, we do not know when he is coming, but we need to behave as if it is at any minute.

Trying to predict the return of Christ is to take time, effort and attention away from works God would rather have us do; Christians would be better off reading the Bible or the works of the Saints, or better yet, volunteering or praying.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-04-29 6:50:14 PM  

#10  #5 Old Spook,

I've seen some end-timer Christians tap dance around those verses by claiming they're not specifying the day and hour, just the year and month.

Posted by: Xbalanke   2005-04-29 5:59:04 PM  

#9  charlatans spouting mimsy

I thought only borogoves were mimsy.
Posted by: Xbalanke   2005-04-29 5:54:20 PM  

#8  The way I remember it Judgement day was suppossed to occur during the Reign of Pope John Paul the 2nd but John Conner and his Mom pushed things back a bit schedule wise.

I'm not sure when the last movie took place but since we're not all dead I have to assume it was sometime in the near future.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2005-04-29 2:43:55 PM  

#7  Didn't they have two Popes for awhile? When you're counting down to doomsday to you count both, or just one assuming the second was a pretender/heretic.

If you were God and you set up a system dependent upon Faith and not facts, why would you give hints as to when Judgement day was? I mean now when Benedict dies we all seek forgiveness and we're in time for the end of the world. All is gold. God's a softy if he gave out hints.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2005-04-29 2:42:23 PM  

#6  Old Spook,

Amen.

I've said the same to some of these people. Deafening silence was the reply, so I've stopped trying.
Posted by: peggy   2005-04-29 2:30:06 PM  

#5  A little bit of the bible, with which one can confound these foools. The words of Chirst himself, which these folks seem to ignore:

Matthew 24:42 "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming."

Matthew 24:44 "For the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.

Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone."

Matthew 25:13 "Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour."

Given Matthew 24:36, these folks seem to put themselves above everyone but God himself in saying that they "know" when the return is happening.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-04-29 1:09:50 PM  

#4  I always have a laugh when one of them's drowned in a butt of mimsy...
Posted by: Fred   2005-04-29 12:54:56 PM  

#3  ...charlatans spouting mimsy

Baby, I am all about the mimsy.
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-04-29 11:34:10 AM  

#2  I was thinking the same thing. They keep advancing the Pope forward. First it was JPI, then JPII, and now the new kid. Well, you can always count on Nostradamus:

In a year holding a three, or seven,
or five, or nine, or maybe not,
Two things, might be people, or armies,
or buildings,
Or anything really, blades of grass,
or stoats, or crapulous charlatans
spouting mimsy,
Might do something nebulous.
Insert made-up-bit here.


--Generic Nostradamus Quatrain from
"The Guardian" (U.K.)
Posted by: Anonymoose   2005-04-29 11:21:33 AM  

#1  Now wait here a second. I heard this story before, only it was John Paul that was second to last.

Nice how these things keep updating themselves.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats   2005-04-29 10:19:06 AM  

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