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Fifth Column
Amnesty Chief: 'Gulag' Not the Best Analogy
2005-06-03
EFL: WASHINGTON — The American head of Amnesty International admits his group did not pick the best analogy when it compared detainee conditions at Guantanamo Bay to the Soviet-era "gulag" forced-labor system.
"There are only about 70,000 in U.S. detention facilities, and to the best of our knowledge, they are not in forced labor, they are not being denied food. But there are some analogies between the gulags and our detention facilities," William Schulz, executive director of Amnesty International USA, said in an interview with FOX News. "The U.S. is running an archipelago of detention facilities — many of them secret facilities — around the world and people in those are being disappeared into them 
 they are being held incommunicado."
"70,000"? Damm, I knew we were good, but not that good!
Posted by:Steve

#21  Ya think he should have compared it to a bad frat initiation?
Posted by: DMFD   2005-06-03 22:55  

#20  I think the smart money realizes that it is a waste of money to give to AI, when no one in the US is going to listen to them now. New Coke had millions behind it and look what it got them.
Posted by: Jabba the Tutt   2005-06-03 22:31  

#19  To paraphrase a rap lyric - "...Why would you say it iff it isn't true, you dawg!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2005-06-03 21:59  

#18  "Amnesty Chief: 'Gulag' Not the Best Analogy"

I take it that AI's chief now realises his kickoff speach for the new AI fundraiser did not go well.
Posted by: Dave   2005-06-03 20:24  

#17  Ths is what the left has to overcome if they want to even think of reaching American voter in the near future. They see Kerry, Dean, and Jimmuh towing the international line like with Amnesty and the average American won't follow their warped logic. There are not 70,000 prisoners in U.S. Custody, even f you add up all the bad guys from the WOT. Unlike the civilized countries in the un we don't normally mistreat prisoners. People who do mistreat prisoners in this country get sent to jail. Amnesty had a good mission and during the cold war they were a good weapon of the west, bt now that dog has turned on us and maybe it s time to put it down. I think the only country that have anything close to a gulag system would be China and Cuba. Maybe amnesty should go visit them and compare what we have at gitmo.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2005-06-03 20:04  

#16  Didn't they have a gulag down in the Galapagos somewhere. Species held against their will and forced to evolve or somethin'.

For AI to say that 'gulag' is not the best analogy
is to simply splash about in the puddle they created when they pissed away all their moral authority with the initial accusation.
Posted by: SteveS   2005-06-03 19:12  

#15  And perhaps he did not pick the best analogy when he compared himself to a human rights organization.
Posted by: 2b   2005-06-03 19:10  

#14  archipelago

Gulag archipelago
US archipelago

subtract archipelago so Gulag = US detention.

Strange Math by morons.
Posted by: 3dc   2005-06-03 18:49  

#13  "fake, but true.....if you define 'true' VERY loosely"
Posted by: Frank G   2005-06-03 18:40  

#12  It's the perfect analogy. Amnesty needs to use it in every one of its fundraising letters, preferably superimposed over an American flag.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2005-06-03 18:01  

#11  Too late. The Brit medical journal The Lancet owns the copyright to 100,000©. I hear 1,000,000 still needs a sponsor.
Posted by: ed   2005-06-03 17:56  

#10  Lets go for 100,000 !
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2005-06-03 17:39  

#9  The 70,000 number is pulled out of their rear end. Total fabrication from these Marxists.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom   2005-06-03 17:22  

#8  TGA, you are one class act, brother. If you ever get to this continent, the beer's on me.
Posted by: Mike   2005-06-03 17:14  

#7  Thank you, TGA.
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-06-03 17:02  

#6  I believe there are less than 10,000 prisoners held in 3 US run prisoner camps in Iraq. I don't have a clue to how many the Iraqis hold. But what do one or two zeroes mean in the context of the glorious socialist revolution? What is the name of the Law that states "Unless explicitly denied by charter, all organizations will over time come under the control of the hard left."
Posted by: ed   2005-06-03 17:01  

#5  Mr Schulz, read my letter... again
Posted by: True German Ally   2005-06-03 16:58  

#4  how many of the 70,000 are in Iraq? Which are held under different legal status than those in Gitmo, Bagram, Diego Garcia, etc. I really dont think the numbers we've picked up in Afghanistan, or have had turned over in other places, comes close to that. Forex, Paki has only turned over 700, and they have to have turned over more than most. So most non-Iraq detainees would be from Afghanistan, and Im sure its not close to 70,000.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2005-06-03 16:49  

#3  "...there are some analogies between the gulags and our detention facilities..."

They both contain the letter 's', for example...
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-06-03 16:43  

#2  "... and to the best of our knowledge, they are not in forced labor ..."

This guy gives weasels a bad name.
Posted by: Xbalanke   2005-06-03 16:41  

#1  Hearing from some of your donors maybe, Sgt. Schultz?
Posted by: tu3031   2005-06-03 16:39  

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