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Home Front: WoT
Lodi's an al-Qaeda nest
2005-06-08
FBI agents have arrested a man and his father after the son allegedly admitted attending Al Qaeda training camps in Pakistan that taught participants "how to kill Americans," federal authorities said Tuesday. In a case that was still unfolding, officials confirmed that Hamid Hayat, 23, and his father, Umer, 47, were taken into custody Sunday. Authorities said late Tuesday that they were still trying to determine whether the arrests represented the discovery of a small network of Al Qaeda sympathizers operating in the agricultural town of Lodi, 40 miles south of Sacramento.

The arrests came days after the younger man was discovered aboard a San Francisco-bound plane even though his name appeared on a "No Fly" list of suspected extremists. At the time, according to an FBI affidavit, Hayat was returning to the U.S. after having visited Pakistan. According to the affidavit, he told agents that after attending Al Qaeda training camps in Pakistan in 2003 and 2004, he was given his pick of where to carry out his terrorist mission. "Hamid advised that he specifically requested to come to the United States to carry out his jihadi mission," the affidavit says. "Potential targets for attack would include hospitals and large food stores."

While Hayat and his father remained in custody on charges of lying to federal authorities, family members denied that the ice cream truck driver or his son, who works in a fruit-packing plant, had any links to terrorism. "The charges are totally false," said a female cousin of Hayat who spoke on condition of anonymity.
"Lies! All lies!"
The family lives in a one-story house a block from Lodi's mosque. The cousin said Hayat's most recent trip to Pakistan had nothing to do with terrorism. Rather, she said, he went with his mother to arrange some marriages and visit relatives. Hayat is the oldest of four children and was born in Lodi, according to the cousin. He went to Pakistan at the age of 9 "to memorize the holy Koran," she said.

Dozens of FBI agents arrived at the home early Tuesday, family members said, and seized videocassettes, photographs, fax machines, prayer books and other items. Federal authorities declined to provide details about the case. "All I can say is that this investigation is continuing," Sacramento FBI spokesman John Cauthen said. But other law enforcement sources suggested Tuesday that the arrests followed a lengthy investigation by federal counterterrorism officials and would result in other arrests. "These guys have been on the radar for awhile," said one official, referring to the Hayats. "And this case has more to it than just these two guys."

According to the seven-page FBI affidavit that was unsealed Tuesday, Sacramento FBI officials were first contacted at 5:30 a.m. on May 29, with information from FBI headquarters that Hayat would attempt to enter the U.S. later that day on a flight from Korea that was bound for San Francisco International Airport. Sacramento Agent Pedro Tenoch Aguilar, in the affidavit, said authorities determined Hayat was en route to the U.S. despite being on a "No Fly" list.

The plane, according to Aguilar's statement, was diverted and allowed to land in Japan for refueling. While in Japan, Hayat was interviewed by an FBI agent and denied having any connection to terrorism. He was allowed to continue his travel to the U.S. Immigration records cited in the FBI agent's affidavit show that the Lodi man left Pakistan on May 27. The records also showed that he had previously traveled to Pakistan in April 2003. Last Friday, according to the affidavit, Hayat was interviewed by FBI agents in Sacramento and specifically asked if he had ever attended any terrorist training camps. He said he would never be involved with extremists The next day, Hayat voluntarily arrived at the FBI's Sacramento office with his father to take a polygraph examination the agents requested. After the test indicated some deception in his answers, Hayat acknowledged that he had attended a training camp in Pakistan for six months in 2003 and 2004, according to the affidavit.

Hayat described the camp as providing training in weapons, explosives, hand-to-hand combat and other paramilitary exercises, the affidavit says. During his weapons training, he said, photos of various high-ranking U.S. political figures including President Bush were pasted onto the targets and he and others were trained on "how to kill Americans," according to the agent's statement. Hayat also said he observed hundreds of people from various parts of the world attending the camps. His father, according to the affidavit, also told FBI agents at first that there were no terrorist training camps in Pakistan.
He prob'ly just did that to make them squirt coffee out their noses...
But after being shown a videotape of his son's statement, the affidavit says, Umer Hayat told agents he had supported his son's time in Pakistan by, among other things, providing him a $100 monthly allowance, knowing that his intention was to attend a terrorist camp. The elder Hayat also allegedly told authorities that he observed training in weapons and urban warfare at several camps, the affidavit says. Umer Hayat told the agents that his son became interested in attending a terrorist training camp as a teenager, influenced by a classmate in Pakistan and an uncle who had fought with the mujahedin in Afghanistan, the affidavit says. Several other family members and friends of the Hayats also were involved in a religious school that sent students to the training camps, the affidavit says.

Both men were being held in federal detention after a brief court appearance Tuesday in Sacramento. While authorities would not comment on whether others have been arrested, local Muslim leaders reported the detentions of two other individuals: an imam at the Lodi mosque and another religious leader affiliated with an Islamic center in Sacramento. Lodi has a sizable Pakistani population.
Posted by:Dan Darling

#20  thanx jackal
Posted by: muck4doo   2005-06-08 21:57  

#19  Here's a working link.
Posted by: Jackal   2005-06-08 18:30  

#18  It's at the World Net Daily site.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2005-06-08 18:25  

#17  link not werkin cs
Posted by: muck4doo   2005-06-08 18:08  

#16  It's worse that I thought! Checkout this link and article. Strange that they were able to get away with this in broad daylight and nobody stopped them.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2005-06-08 17:56  

#15  Prosecute them under treason laws?
Posted by: anon   2005-06-08 17:52  

#14  THM is correct, LONG before 9/11 Muslims were chanting "Death to America" in the morning and selling us oil in the afternoon. When you live in shitholes such as the Middle East it's easy to find disgruntled people you can recruit for any manner of terrorists activity. But this is way more dangerous because these yahoos lived, went to school, and worked in the U.S. I have met MANY first and second generation immigrants and most (save Muslims) have nothing but praise and loyalty for this country. Very few of them actually join the left wing political parties because the mindset is counter to everything they have become. Other than deporting the families back to Pakistan, I am not sure what can be done with a cluster of disloyal terrorists sympathizers.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2005-06-08 17:15  

#13  "Stuck in Lodi, again"
Posted by: Cloluse Crosh3135   2005-06-08 17:07  

#12  TMH, I agree completely! It is truly stand up be counted time, for Americans in general, but especially Muslims since so many are using that religion to attack us.
Posted by: Justrand   2005-06-08 15:04  

#11  "If I thought someone in my church was planning such an act I would contact the Feds in a milisecond."
And here lies the difference between Islam and all other religions.
"The fact that the Muslim community puts ALLAN above the LIVES of my family is unacceptable."
It has always been that way. The difference now is that they are more visible because of the open acts of terror they are committing around the world.
Muslims in South America marry muslims and if they are not enough of them around, they send for them from other countries. Italians, Germans, even the weasel french intermarry with the local population but not muslims. They never, ever integrate into any culture and feel no loyalty to the host country.


Posted by: TMH   2005-06-08 14:30  

#10  Radical Islam? The problem with the "non-radical muslims" is that they might not detonate the bombs but they agree with the detonators and will never report them.
Until Americans understand that, none of us will be safe!
Posted by: TMH   2005-06-08 14:22  

#9  Justrand - You hit it on the head:
Muzzy Rule One: Muzzy First. Fuck everyone else.
Muzzy Rule Two: See Rule One.
Posted by: .com   2005-06-08 13:47  

#8  All immigrants who voluntarily decide not to assimilate are tumors.

Dr Steve can fill us in on the latest cancer treatment regimes, assuming it can't just be fucking excised via surgery and dumped in the biohazard toxic waste bin.

Here's my F**kin Duh view:
In the end, all Western countries will be forced to either go under or make the environment so hostile to those who refuse to assimilate that they choose to return to the shitholes that spawned them. My favorite bit of lunacy is that they very carefully pack and haul their shithole re-creation kits with them. And, once established, busy themselves making a shithole just like home. How nostalgic.

Of course, who creates the worst shitholes on the planet? Thugs, Dictators, Mullahs - the stalwart bastions of the UN General Assembly.
Posted by: .com   2005-06-08 13:45  

#7  Lodi's just a little shit town on SR 99. If it needs cleaning out, the job shouldn't be that hard to do.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-06-08 13:43  

#6  I find myself typing words I couldn't have imagined typing before 9/11: I hope the FBI is bugging the hell out of every mosque in the U.S.

If these morons HAD succeeded in blowing up a hospital, and then large numbers of individuals in the mosque had been shown to be involved and/or knowledgable, the ramifications from the regular citizens of Lodi (and elsewhere) would have been ghastly. Appropriate, but ghastly.

It's one thing for the 9/11 asswipes to sneak into the country and commit their crimes. But when AMERICAN CITIZENS plot from within to kill Americans...enough is enough!!

If I thought someone in my church was planning such an act I would contact the Feds in a milisecond. The fact that the Muslim community puts ALLAN above the LIVES of my family is unacceptable.

We are WAR with radical Islam...NOT terror. We better start fighting the right war. Giving these morons Korans at Gitmo, when we know for a FACT that the Koran is what they use to justify their actions is EXACTLY like giving the Nazis awaiting trial at Nuremburg copies of Mein Kampf so they could keep their hatred of the Jews finely honed. Geez!!
Posted by: Justrand   2005-06-08 13:39  

#5  Cyber Sarge,
That is one of the fundamental tasks we face in rooting out radical islam in America. The people at the mosque think these guys are the injured party, not terrorists. Why do they even come here? They hate Americans,Christians,Democracy,and all the freedoms that this country has fought and suffered so long to provide us.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2005-06-08 12:45  

#4  What’s scary about this is that it seems that everyone knew about the son, his travels, and his training. Yet no one from the local mosque thought that maybe the activities were illegal. If fact some members of the congregation believe that some civil rights were violated (although they could not cite one). Clearly these people do NOT feel like Americans or they have a really warped idea of what it means to be an American. If it were up to me the entire family would be on a plane bound for Pakistan this morning.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2005-06-08 12:20  

#3  Oh, Allan Lord, stuck in Lodi again...
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2005-06-08 11:23  

#2  Not so interesting aside: Lodi, NJ, is home to the go-go bar that doubles as "the Bing" in The Sopranos.
Posted by: Tibor   2005-06-08 11:16  

#1  Lodi's mosque needs a cleaning out, apparently. Good thing they don't have access to ammonium fertilizer.....oh sh*t!
Posted by: Frank G   2005-06-08 10:30  

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