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GOP Sen. Suggests Closing Guantanamo Jail
2005-06-12
KEY WEST, Fla. (AP) - Sen. Mel Martinez said the Bush administration should consider closing the Guantanamo Bay prison for terrorism suspects - the first high-profile Republican to make the suggestion. ``It's become an icon for bad stories and at some point you wonder the cost-benefit ratio,'' Martinez said Friday. ``How much do you get out of having that facility there? Is it serving all the purposes you thought it would serve when initially you began it, or can this be done some other way a little better?''
Sure, we can close it. Options: 1) shoot all the cons 2) move them to Bagram 3) move them to an undisclosed location 4) move them to Antartica.
Martinez served in President Bush's first cabinet and is a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Martinez, who strongly supported Bush's efforts in Iraq during his campaign last year, also expressed concerns about progress in the war. ``I am discouraged by how long it has taken for us to begin to draw down some forces,'' Martinez said at the annual Florida Society of Newspaper Editors/Florida Press Association convention.

He said he has had to write many condolence letters to the families of Floridians killed in Iraq. ``It brings home the importance of the decision to send men and women to go to war,'' he said. ``It has become a foreign fighters' war against us there and the progress seems slow and difficult.''
Posted by:Steve White

#17  Funny how liberals like to mention "cost-benefit."
I've never heard liberals ever worrying about the costs of anything, along as the bill is being paid for by taxpayers. Maybe you know more fiscally responsible liberals than I do.

What intel do we get from Gitmo detainees? Maybe we just shoot AQ jihadists rather than taking them prisoner and warehousing them at great expense to the US taxpayer indefinitely.

As for folks who think that these Gitmo detainees are a "threat" to America's survival - hum, guess you haven't heard but there are graver threats here already in the form of 8,000-10,000 M-13 gang members, who have known links as well as sympathies with AQ, and who have settled in the USA courtesy of our open borders politicians, both Democrats and Republicans, with President Bush being one of the more vocal open borders advocates. There's greater immediate dangers to American citizens' lives stateside from M-13 violence, I'll wager, than from the majority of low lives housed at Gitmo, which number around 600.
Posted by: Thotch Glesing2372   2005-06-12 17:34  

#16  Simple solution...vote on closing Gitmo and if it passes relocate the jihadists to the districts represented by every traitorous senator who voted to close it. Make this the plan and make it public BEFORE the vote - then lets see what happens. Bastids.
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2005-06-12 15:07  

#15  Why don't we just outsource GITMO to Sans Francisco? Lonely boys and lonely nights will finally end all the atrocity stories buggering us in the international press arena, the ACLU will be happy because there will be no moral standard at all, Amnesty International will be openly allowed to dress in drag and make frequent and intimate visits to the poor boys, the Mooslim redicals will be happy to regain the male bonding they ache so much for, and we don't have to pay out a pension to the outsourced staff. When the GITMO rats are finally deemed harmless and redeemed before the true creator of man and the true people he created then they can limp wrist themselves to Sans Francisco and be happy and gay once again. Its all twisted i realize, but have you ever been over there? Now thats a twisted experience!
Posted by: Shomble Shoger7533   2005-06-12 15:03  

#14  I agree with Phil_b, let all the bitching and whining go towards Gitmo. The fact that we hear anything good or bad tells you that there is little to hide. The worst thing I heard come out of gitmo was that some prisoner got roughed up AFTER attacking the guards. If you really want to mess these guys up, release them into GenPop in any State prison. They would demand to be sent back to Gitmo after a couple of days of beatings and sodomy at the hands of the gangs inside. Also we could just line them all up and execute the whole bunch. I wonder if we would draw as much anger as China and Iran do get when they hold mass executions. I think a precident has been set here.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2005-06-12 14:35  

#13  use them as shark and marlin bait when sport fishing off of GitMo.
Posted by: 3dc   2005-06-12 11:56  

#12  My argument is simple: Any complaints about GitMo, as transparently humanely as the detainees have been treated, is fifth column propaganda. No one in their right mind thinks anything worse will befall these guys while in US custody than some mussed hair and maybe a dirty look from armed guards.

Funny how liberals like to mention "cost-benefit." It makes them sound as though they are being sensible and conservative, more so than conservatives. However, my experience has been the truth is far, far more mundane and boring than the lies being repeated by Amnesty et al, and no amount of posturing or using economic terms to bolster a terribly weak argument will clear away the fact that once those prisoners at Gitmo are released they will resume their illegal war against us and more people, preferably in the liberal mind, Americans, will die as a direct result.
Posted by: badanov   2005-06-12 10:33  

#11  From the list:

"#10 Only white wine is served – even on filet mignon night"

Those ba$tard$!!
Posted by: eLarson   2005-06-12 08:35  

#10  Top 11 Gulag Guantanamo Atrocities
Posted by: Abu Felcher   2005-06-12 06:05  

#9  ``It's become an icon for bad stories and at some point you wonder the cost-benefit ratio,''..

Gee, I wonder where those "bad stories" are coming from....?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-06-12 04:56  

#8  One posibility is Gitmo is kept as a lightening rod for those who will criticize anyway and the really bad guys are held elsewhere Bagram? Diego Garcia? Which almost never mentioned except in extreme leftwing sites.
Posted by: phil_b   2005-06-12 04:02  

#7  Look, the only damn way to determine its long-term is to know, quite frankly, what became known as a result of the Gitmo detainees, and dammit but I sure as hell don't want to know!
Posted by: Edward Yee   2005-06-12 03:18  

#6  I think you are romanticizing the signifigance of Gitmo.

What a coincidence. So are you.
Posted by: badanov   2005-06-12 02:43  

#5  How many prisoners can we afford to house at Gitmo and how useful is the intelligence they provide us after a period of time? I think Martinez is right to question the long term usefulness of Gitmo.

If you close Gitmo, all those Floridian combats deaths will be a meangingless statistic
I think you are romanticizing the signifigance of Gitmo.
Posted by: Thotch Glesing2372   2005-06-12 02:25  

#4  4) move them to Antartica

Damn that's cold!
Posted by: Rafael   2005-06-12 01:11  

#3  He said he has had to write many condolence letters to the families of Floridians killed in Iraq. ``It brings home the importance of the decision to send men and women to go to war,'' he said. ``It has become a foreign fighters' war against us there and the progress seems slow and difficult.''

If you close Gitmo, all those Floridian combats deaths will be a meangingless statistic. Please do not dishonor them or their deaths by shutting down Gitmo. Let us honor them by completing the mission those brave and honorable men and woman embarked on voluntarily and by winning this war.

And Mel, news in wartime is often bad, and in these times magnified beyond any reason and perspective by our fifth column media. What will determine the character of this nation is how it slogs on in despite any apparent adversity.

This isn't SNES where we can win a war by intense activity for a few hours.
Posted by: badanov   2005-06-12 00:47  

#2  It's like we have 101 Secretaries of State.

Note Mel Martinez is from Florida and there may be some hyperlocal Cuban politix involved...
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-06-12 00:42  

#1  WTF is wrong with our senate? It seems like the victory of 2004 has made them lose their sacks. Is this guy trying to lose the war for us?
Posted by: badanov   2005-06-12 00:40  

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