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Home Front: WoT
FBI Rounds Up 5 in Newark
2005-07-26
This is interesting, to say the least.
Five Egyptian men with maps of the New York City subway system and video of New York landmarks have been arrested by the Joint Terrorism Task Force in Newark, N.J., ABC News has learned.

FBI and law enforcement officials told ABC News the five men — four illegal immigrants and one law enforcement fugitive — were arrested Sunday night following a tip to the Newark Police Department. In addition to the subway maps and video, the men had train schedules and $8,000 in $20 and $50 bills.

The men were identified as: Karim Ahmed Abdel Latif Ahmed, 21; his brother Mahoud Ahmed Abdel Latif Ahmed, 19; Ahmed Mohamed Atta, 30; Mohamed Ibrahim Gaber, 34, and Mohamed Palat Anwar Jozain. When Newark authorities converged at the group's location at 246 Ferry St., Karim Ahmed answered the door and agreed to allow police to enter. Officers said they noticed the maps, and video cameras and Karim and his brother agreed to a search.

Karim said he had the maps because he had a new job as a street vendor. Initially, Karim said no one else was in the apartment, but police came upon the three other men upon further search.

FBI officials said the men have no known link to a terror network but noted that none of them could adequately explain the items they had in their possession, the large amount of money or their reasons for being in the United States. Mohamed Ibrahim Gaber has been a fugitive since he jumped ship from an Egyptian flagged freighter in September 2000.

The men, all of whom claimed to be unemployed civil or chemical engineers, are set to be deported by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. I vote for Gitmo.
Gitmo? Not a chance. Memo to Dan Darling: add these mooks to your list for Diego, or somewhere more remote ...
Posted by:Chuck Simmins

#21  I agree AP. I recalled that too, but haven't the foggest why the raid on Mount Emily.
Posted by: GK   2005-07-26 23:11  

#20  Didn't a Japanese Pilot try to take over some hawaiian island after Pearl -- along with some Japanese residents?
Posted by: CrazyFool   2005-07-26 22:19  

#19  and a lead to a recent Dirk Pitt Jr book - Black Wind
Posted by: Frank G   2005-07-26 21:59  

#18  GK---The incendary-laden balloons were a long-shot attempt to start forest fires, IIRC.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2005-07-26 21:48  

#17  #12. Tom, I recalled incendiary attacks against the northwest mainland and googled up two references:
1)On Wednesday morning, September 9, 1942, the Imperial Japanese Navy submarine I-25 surfaced west of Cape Blanco and launched a small seaplane piloted by Chief Flying Officer Nobuo Fujita. Fujita flew southeast over the Oregon coast, dropping incendiary bombs on Mount Emily, 10 miles northeast of Brookings. Fujita was able to launch an additional bombing sortie three weeks later.
2)One of the best kept secrets of the war involved the Japanese balloon bomb offensive, prompted by the Doolittle raid on Tokyo on April 18, 1942 as a means of direct reprisal against the U.S. mainland. Some 9,000 balloons made of paper or rubberized silk and carrying anti-personnel and incendiary bombs were launched from Japan during a five-month period, to be carried by high altitude winds more than 6,000 miles eastward across the Pacific to North America. Perhaps a thousand of these reached this continent, but there were only about 285 reported incidents. Most were reported in the northwest U.S., but some balloons traveled as far east as Michigan. I doubt that these, mostly unsucessful raids, influenced the establishment of the internment camps.
Posted by: GK   2005-07-26 21:45  

#16  Tom, you should read Michelle Malkin's book on internment.

The broken codes apparently showed enough of a spy network on the West Coast that the government was alarmed.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins   2005-07-26 20:29  

#15  no imports for Civils needed, thankyouverymuch. Illegals? throw the f*&kers back, after 5 yrs breaking big rocks into small rocks. As an engineer, they should appreciate the need for aggregate of all sizes: 3/4", 1/2", down to a 200 sieve, therefore, get to work ya lazy MoFos! Picks and hammers!
Posted by: Frank G   2005-07-26 20:17  

#14  These guys need a ringside seat near the blast deflectors on the next shuttle launch.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2005-07-26 19:53  

#13  None that I know of, Tom; I think Roosevelt's concern was mainly about spying, and industrial/military sabotage. I don't recall reading about any incidents of that type, either.

Posted by: Dave D.   2005-07-26 19:44  

#12  Aside from Pearl Harbor, were there any other Japanese acts of violence that provoked the internment camps in WWII?
Posted by: Neutron Tom   2005-07-26 19:25  

#11  "Do you think this is wrong? Am I over reacting..."

Maybe. But if you are, you've got LOTS of company-- including me.

I've been thinking lately, what happens if the Islamoloonies land another punch on American soil? I suppose the answer depends on the size of the punch.
Posted by: Dave D.   2005-07-26 19:11  

#10  Overreacting? Yes.

But anymore my giveadamn is busted
Posted by: Michael   2005-07-26 19:05  

#9  Four were ILLEGAL ALIENS?

I wonder how they entered the United States... Did they overstay their visa (in which case the Counsler officer(s) should be repremanded or fired) or did they come across the Mexican or Canadian border (in which case Border Patrol heads should roll....).

Its damn time we start holding people who let this happen responsible -- we aren't playing for peanuts here....
Posted by: CrazyFool   2005-07-26 19:01  

#8  I like the Brits way of dealing with them. Shoot them first then ask questions....

If another bombs hits the USA how many of us do you think are going to visit the targets you we have already selected just in case?

You think the Islamo's Pig's have sleeper cells in the USA? Wait until 100 million armed citizen sleeper cell cuts loose on the local Mosques and Arab neighborhoods "if" another bombs goes off in the USA.

Select a team and pick a target and lets be quick about it.

Do you think this is wrong? Am I over reacting...

Posted by: Long Hair Republican   2005-07-26 18:44  

#7  OhmyGod!!!!!!!!!!

They missed Lars Olag, 38!!!
Posted by: Michael   2005-07-26 18:08  

#6  Colour me impressed -- the FBI got them before they did anything harmful! Well done, boys and girls ... now go do that again.
Posted by: trailing wife   2005-07-26 17:59  

#5  one of them :
Ahmed Mohamed Atta, 30
WTF???
is that name like John Smith in Egypt?
Posted by: BigEd   2005-07-26 17:50  

#4  Lol... When I read #3 (yes I read them in reverse order when the thread is short), I instantly took "Planet D" to be a planet, with an alternate reality country called "Egypt" - yeah, I know, read too much SciFi.

But I think it makes as much sense, actually, as the surreal world these tools inhabit, lol!
Posted by: .com   2005-07-26 17:13  

#3  Egyptians, Planet D.

With training as chemical and civil engineers ... ie. qualified to figure out the best ways to bring down bridges and blow up subways.
Posted by: too true   2005-07-26 16:50  

#2  were they British?
Posted by: PlanetDan   2005-07-26 15:09  

#1  And I thought they were Norwegians!

Hmmm... has the time come for ethnic/racial profiling, anyone?

I heard this here in Northern Virginia during Rush's show (he's on vacation) on WMAL 63 AM dial.

Searched all over the place, couldn't find sh*t, then made the wise move to come here.

Thanks!
Posted by: Sheling Shinelet1015   2005-07-26 14:53  

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