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Pact (on carbon emissions) is 'self-serving'
2005-07-28
More on the 'secret pact' on carbon emissions. There are hundreds of reports. I picked this one for its ease of Fisking.
Sydney - Environmentalists on Thursday condemned a new pact against global warming by the United States and five Asia-Pacific countries, saying it was self-serving and would not work.
Well they are experts on self-serving so we should listen to them.
The agreement by the US, Australia, India, China, South Korea and Japan calls for a non-binding compact to reduce greenhouse gas emissions which are blamed for climate change. "Skulking around making secretive, selective deals will not accomplish" a reduction in emissions as called for in the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, which the US and Australia have declined to ratify, said Greenpeace Australia.
Neither will a $1000 a day conferences blatherfeasts. So whats your point.
"No doubt the (Australian) government has been cooking this scheme up for a while to cover up for their failure to ratify Kyoto, and to try prove that developing countries are abandoning Kyoto," said spokesperson Catherine Fitzpatrick.
Ahah! It's a scheme! I knew it! Cooked up by sinister men of dark visage in a smoke-filled room! Bilderberg's involved, y'know...
"This is not the case. Unlike Australia, China, India and South Korea have all ratified Kyoto and are moving forward to implement their commitments," she said.
China and India together the biggest CO2 emitters on the planet don't have any commitments under Kyoto, doubtless the reason they signed up.
"The suggested scheme is, unlike Kyoto, a voluntary scheme and all evidence shows that voluntary schemes do not work."
Unlike Kyoto which doesn't work either. Oops!
The Kyoto accord legally commits 39 industrial nations and territories to trim their output of six greenhouse gases - especially carbon dioxide, the by-product of burning fossil fuels such as coal and oil. Friends of the Earth Australia said the proposed alliance "does not address the immediate need to cut greenhouse pollution by at least 60% by 2050.
Neither does Kyoto. Whats your point?
"Although detail on the 'secret plan' is difficult to access, it appears to contain no binding commitments," spokesperson Cam Walker said. "By staying out of the 'main game', the Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse gases, the US and Australia continue to be open to criticism that they are only looking after their narrowly defined interests at the expense of the rest of the world," he said.
Completely ignore that this agreement commits far more of the carbon emitters to do something than does Kyoto.
The leader of the opposition Australian Greens party, Bob Brown, dismissed the new agreement as "a coal pact" involving four of the world's biggest coal producers - China, the US, India and Australia.
Bob Brown is a raving moonbat.
It was designed to "defend the coal industry in an age where it's the biggest industry contributing deliberately to the global warming threat to Australia and the planet," he said.
Actually opponents to nuclear power at any cost are the real threat, and you Mr. Brown are the leading exponent.
I'm waiting for nuclear winter to come back. I haven't been skiing in a long time.
Posted by:phil_b

#4  Not to mention that Kyoto was/is "self-serving" for the French & Germans. It was always intended as economic warfare against the US. And yes, I did say "warfare".
Posted by: mojo   2005-07-28 15:06  

#3  This cracks me up, for the left it's motives that matter, not if something works or not. If the pact works, but is self-serving, its bad. If Kyoto won't work, but was done for rightious reasons it is good.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2005-07-28 11:59  

#2  If it includes China and India, it's already got Kyoto beat by a country mile...
Posted by: mojo   2005-07-28 10:26  

#1  reduce greenhouse gas emissions which are blamed for climate change.

There is but one god.....


Sorry, boys, but the real science is out and humans are not driving climate change outside the actual land they occupy, and even then its marginal. When the nitwits can show me the carbon generating industries and machines man had 18,000 years ago to melt the ice covering most of North America and Europe, I might listen, but till then, go rant to your little god.
Posted by: Glater Uninter1262   2005-07-28 08:48  

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