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Conservative MP urges "treacherous" Muslims to leave Britain
2005-08-04
Muslims opposed to the British way of life should leave the country, even if they are UK citizens, a senior main opposition Conservative MP said Wednesday.
"Pack your turban and get the hell out!"
Conservative Shadow Defence Minister Gerald Howarth told The Scotsman newspaper that extremists who saw the Iraq war as a conflict against Islam should be considered as treacherous as Soviet sympathisers were during the Cold War. Howarth also criticised remarks by British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw and his own Conservative colleague Dominic Grieve, the Shadow Attorney General. Howarth said the majority of Muslims adhered to British values and he described how the British flag had been flown at a meeting he had with Muslims over last weekend. But the MP compared those who despised the British way of life with the traitors who spied for the USSR.
Same principle, isn't it? Treason is treason, no matter what flavor it is...
Those critical of him are left defending the idea that people hostile to Britain should be allowed to stay ...
"If they don't like our way of life, there is a simple remedy, go to another country, get out," Howarth said. Asked what if those people were born in Britain, he replied "Tough. If you don't give allegiance to this country, then leave. There are plenty of other countries whose way of life would appear to be more conducive to what they aspire to....They would be happy and we would be happy."
Sounds fair to me, but "fair" isn't what you'd call an Islamic ideal...
Howarth was apparently incensed by suggestions from Straw yesterday that the presence of British troops in Iraq was "part of the problem. And he criticised Grieve, who said yesterday that the London attacks were "explicable" because of the deep sense of anger felt by Muslims in the UK about various issues, including Iraq and the state of the Islamic world.
No other social groups seem to be capable of anger quite like it presents itself among Muslims, do they?
Posted by:Fred

#13  Most Americans are descendents of immigrants who came here for a better life and increased opportunity but they did not retain their nationalistic allegiances except to find excuses for parades and to drink beer in stupid costumes. These immigrants despise our western culture and want to impose some Islamic land of Oz on the rest of us. If immigrants have no intention of assimmilating, I can only presume the reason they come west is nefarious. It's kind of like those who want to make the rest of learn Spanish and accommodate them, all the while living on welfare and housing subsidies courtesy of the citizen taxpayers. I think we need new qualifications for immigrants just as they did in the old days...a minumum of finances, employment skills, etc. This is a War on Terror and we have way too many enemy infiltrators among us. I agree with James Woolsey who said it needs to be fought just like the old Cold War spy days, because treacherous sympathizers are here. I'll pitch in and do my part by paying for a flight back to wherever.
Posted by: Danielle   2005-08-04 16:37  

#12  Phil, weak bladdered Buchannonite.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-08-04 13:05  

#11  ".. If you don't give allegiance to this country, then leave. There are plenty of other countries whose way of life would appear to be more conducive to what they aspire to....They would be happy and we would be happy."

It's not about going back to a country of origin, it's about pledging alliegence to your country, and believing in it's credo.
Posted by: Jan   2005-08-04 11:27  

#10  Britain: Love it or leave it.

I like the sound of that.
Posted by: BH   2005-08-04 09:56  

#9  Aye... tis ranting season for the terminally deluded.
Posted by: Howard UK   2005-08-04 09:00  

#8  Howard.... MSNBC here in the states just showed a clip from a new Ayman al-Zawahiri video in it he again threathens London and mentions Blair.
Posted by: Grins Sluper5274   2005-08-04 08:37  

#7  Don't like it here? Piss off then. Couldn't agree more.
Posted by: Howard UK   2005-08-04 08:33  

#6  Question though, how would we handle ALL of our citizens being forced back home?

How far back we going to determine what's "home"? Go back far enough, and Africa's gonna be crowded.

Don't go back far enough, and a lot of people are gonna have to be split into multiple pieces.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-08-04 07:28  

#5  Why don't I think I'll see this at the BBC?
Hard to say that I disagree with his assessment.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom   2005-08-04 07:20  

#4  Question though, how would we handle ALL of our citizens being forced back home?

Fortunately, Canada gave citizenship to a lot of the anti-Vietnam hippies and the rest are too stoned too much of the time to find their way back.
Posted by: leader of the pack   2005-08-04 07:12  

#3  Question though, how would we handle ALL of our citizens being forced back home?

Yesterday, I thought you were a Leftist troll being 'subtle'. Today, I think you exhibiting the classic signs of long term brain damage caused by prolonged and excessive ingestion of recreational drugs - disordered thought processes and bizzare conspiracy theories.

Although I must admit its hard to tell the difference.
Posted by: phil_b   2005-08-04 06:46  

#2  My hunch is, a few more of those high profile terrorists attacks, and we'll all see the largest forced repatriation of arabs and muslims the world has ever seen! Question though, how would we handle ALL of our citizens being forced back home?
Posted by: smn   2005-08-04 06:04  

#1  Fred-Excellent find! Looks like we are seeing more and more European types beginning to get a good dose of self-preservation antijihadics...
Posted by: BigEd   2005-08-04 02:02  

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