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| Africa: Horn |
| Sudan violence death toll rises to 130 |
| 2005-08-05 |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #12 JFM, thanks for correcting my numbers. I'm afraid I'd lost track, and I didn't want to exaggerate. 2b, I would never have pegged you as shallow. (Of course, I am still more than a bit naive and gullible, but even so.) |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2005-08-05 15:43 |
| #11 why don't you see wall to wall because these people have been raised in cultures where anything goes. In places where life is good, no one is getting their heads chopped off and everyone is for the most part nice and kind, the biggest sin of all is to point out someone else's sin. So - since the sins of their own world consist mostly of indulgence, they have this disassociative need to go outside their own little bubble worlds and meddle in communities that actually do have problems - with the intent of helping by sharing their own lack of experience in real conflict with platitudes such as, "can't we all just get along". Because they are bubble children, they don't understand that sometimes these conflicts go beyond just looking away and saying "to each his own". How do I know. These are my people, my friends, my family, my neighbors. The sheltered and shallow...and yes, I suppose I am among them. With no real problems of their own, they look to analyse the problems of others. They really just want to help. The problem is that they haven't a clue. |
| Posted by: 2b 2005-08-05 13:51 |
| #10 Steve, you may be right - I hope so. I don't see much of this wall-to-wall coverage about anyone who is non-white. Hmm... I could will be wrong - and I'm willing to accept that. (have been wrong before....). |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2005-08-05 13:26 |
| #9 Yesterday article>> Sudanese festivities kill 130 #1 Arabs/Muslims killing again cause we're in Iraq right..... Posted by MACOFROMOC 2005-08-04 15:03|| Front Page|| Comment Top #2 No MAC the Root cause is the Reagan budget cuts. Don't you get the newsletter? Posted by Shipman 2005-08-04 15:20|| Front Page|| Comment Top #3 maybe it'll spread the whole waste of a continent and they will kill each other off Posted by Thraing Hupoluper1864 2005-08-04 16:09|| Front Page|| Comment Top #4 WOT: Wouldn't it be wiser to arm and train up the Christian side Thraing Hupoluper1864? Posted by Red Dog 2005-08-04 16:33|| Front Page|| Comment Top #5 well since the christian side is a very little minority then no i it wouldn't be wise. Just give them a few more years and they'll each other off if we stop sending aid. Between spreading AIDS and fighting they have nothing better too do evidently. Posted by Thraing Hupoluper1864 2005-08-04 17:14|| Front Page|| Comment Top #6 The language and thinking of your commentators is of the worst I have ever read. As A Sudanese and an African I feel great offense. Grow up you fools and try to understand the gravity of possible Civil War. It seems that British Civil War and the American Civil War donot feature in your simple minds. The late Colonel John Garang would have greatly disappointed that fellow Christians harbour such contemptuous thought. Posted by Javique Grorong8527 2005-08-04 19:00|| Front Page|| Comment Top #7 After that South America! You with me Thraing! Let's Roll! Posted by Shipman 2005-08-04 19:08|| Front Page|| Comment Top #8 Actually what JG just said, way better than my poor sarcasm. Posted by Shipman 2005-08-04 19:10|| Front Page|| Comment Top #9 Re #6: Well said! Posted by borgboy 2005-08-04 20:00|| Front Page|| Comment Top #10 The language and thinking of your commentators is of the worst I have ever read. I blame it on the free use of computers at the public library and the cheap PCs they hand out with AOL subscriptions. Posted by Pappy 2005-08-04 21:29|| Front Page|| Comment Top #11 I can certainly empathise with JG's comment at #6, since war generally sucks and the Rantberg Motto is "Civilized, Well-reasoned Discourse" However, at first glance, the Sudan situation looks like business as usual in Africa: tribal feuds, ethnic hatreds and the settling of old scores. The Americal Civil War has been described as "two mobs chasing each other around the country", but there was a point and purpose to it other than just killing people - the question of whether the Union would survive. Perhaps someone who has been following Sudan more closely can explain it, assuming there is more to it. I have a hard time keeping track of who is killing whom and why around around the world. Posted by SteveS 2005-08-04 22:50|| Front Page|| Comment Top #12 The language and thinking of your commentators is of the worst I have ever read. As A Sudanese and an African I feel great offense. Grow up you fools and try to understand the gravity of possible Civil War. Lump my #4 question in... did ya Javique Grorong8527. It seems that British Civil War and the American Civil War donot feature in your simple minds. Lump me in that declaration, did ya Javique Grorong8527? Assuming for a moment that you are Sudanese Javique Grorong8527, why not enlighten us with your direct experience and insights, putting context [historical] to the current events in Sudan? /instead of wagging the finger. Posted by Red Dog 2005-08-04 23:06|| Front Page|| Comment Top Still waiting Javique Grorong8527. I didn't see any blood on the comments thread yesterday JG did you? |
| Posted by: Red Dog 2005-08-05 12:34 |
| #8 I'm not a racist, I'm an anti-urbanist. |
| Posted by: Sen Byrd (D-KKK) 2005-08-05 11:30 |
| #7 Another reason is because they hope the Arabs will "finish the job Hitler left unfinished". Since the invasion of Soviet Union it is politically uncorrect in left circles to use the same themes than the Nazis. But the Palestiaians akllow to circumvent the problem: after sobbing upon the "poor Palestinians" (and not a tear upon the Soudanese), they can go to phase two "I am not anti-Jew just anti-Sionist" and then to phase III "Death to the Jew" like it was openly told during the demos against the Irak war. |
| Posted by: JFM 2005-08-05 10:40 |
| #6 CF: American media spent as much time as they did on "one blonde, white, rich girl who went drinking in Aruba" because she was American. Had she been blonde, white, rich and Finnish, I don't think we would have heard anything about it. I agree that there's racism on the hard Left, but the young woman who died in Aruba is not an example of that. |
| Posted by: Steve White 2005-08-05 10:33 |
| #5 It's dangerous over there and how will they blame the US if they get killed? |
| Posted by: Mrs. Davis 2005-08-05 10:00 |
| #4 Hear, hear, CF! Africa is one continent that completely befuddles me as to why there's a lack of coverage. It's not as if there's nothing going on there. Heck, you have daily landgrabs/murders in ZimBOBwe, Arab/Muslim "conflicts" with the Christians/Animists in Sudan, chaos in Mauritania, famine in Niger, even lesser events in Algeria. Sadly, I thought we learned our lessons over Rwanda, but I don't think we did. It always cracks me up when I talk to some blacks here about Africa and even they don't know what's going on, and are amazed at my (basic) knowledge of the violence going on over there. And, I'm not pushing the black on white violence of ZimBOBwe, but usually tell them of the African on African or Arab on African violence of Sudan. |
| Posted by: BA 2005-08-05 09:56 |
| #3 One word JFM: Racism And I mean true racism and not the 'you didn't respect me enough' B-S the left is always spewing about. Why else whould they expend so much energy on one blonde, white, rich girl who went drinking in Aruba and got into trouble while ignoring the million(s) of black who are being routinely targetted, murdered and gang-raped in Sudan? |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2005-08-05 09:40 |
| #2 It is not tens of thousands. It is well over a million and counting. BTW, anyone noticed the deafening silence of the left about it? A Palestinian dead (provided he was killed by the Joooos) is a tragedy, a thousand Anyone coming with an explanation about why the progressists are mute about this? |
| Posted by: JFM 2005-08-05 09:24 |
| #1 That would, of course, be 130 where officials are bothering to count. Never mind the tens of thousands the Arab Muslims have murdered in the last decade for being either not Muslim or not Arab. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2005-08-05 07:07 |