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Terror Networks & Islam
Moderate muslim sez : the West is listening, and the problem lies in what we arabs are saying
2005-10-05
London Arabic Daily: The World is Closely Watching Us Due to Western Institutions Specializing in Translating Arab Media That would be Memri; The Problem Lies in What We Say

In an article titled "The World is Closely Watching" columnist Diana Mukkaled of the London Arabic daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat [1] wrote about the recent controversy surrounding the BBC Panorama program on extremist Muslims in London. The producers of the program were assisted by MEMRI.

The following are excerpts from the article:

"The members of the Muslim Council of Britain were outraged at the BBC after the broadcasting of the popular program, ''Panorama'' last week which tackled the failure of the council in its supervision of 400 mosques and Muslim organizations in Britain to curb extremists. The ''Panorama'' special dealt with interviews with Islamic leaders in Britain who expressed their support for suicide operations against Israeli civilians yet condemned the London attacks. The episode also discussed the Islamic view of Christians, Jews and Hindus and the reality that some Muslims consider members of other religions as atheists.

"The BBC program was full of questions that preoccupy Europe today, who are the enemies living among us, why do they label others as infidels and why do they hate us? 


"What was interesting about this particular Panorama episode was the battle between the journalist John Ware and British Muslim leaders concerning their viewpoints of suicide operations and non-Muslims
 The same familiar face frequently features on our Arab screens. There remains the belief that "We are the believers and the people of paradise and they are the unbelievers and the people of hell". Such is a language that is present on a daily basis and hardly any [Arab] broadcasting channels are free of such dispute. Yet within the minds of those who propagate these acts, lies the belief that the world will not heed their message when repeated in Arabic on Arab broadcasting channels.

"These very people, however, will use different terminology when speaking in English on foreign television networks.

"For this reason, when they are confronted with what they have previously argued in Arabic, they seem confused and frantically search for other arguments, which was exactly the case on the Panorama special.

"However, the world is closely watching. There are western institutions that specialize in translating material that is used by all forms of Arab media. The majority of programs are recorded and later broadcasted, therefore when a Muslim cleric features on some broadcasting channel referring to Jews as "grandchildren of monkeys and pigs," it is inevitable that such words will reach millions of people around the world. Such a portrayal of these extremist attitudes causes the Muslim and Arab immigrants and their children in the west to pay the price for such words.

"The accusations that British Muslims have made against the BBC of having a Zionist agenda are easily refutable in comparison to the statements made by Muslim leaders themselves. The problem does not lie in what the BBC said, but rather in what we say."
Posted by:anonymous5089

#11  Slipspeak for the non-arab audience is a well honed skill among the talking heads of the ummah unless they get caught on tape while emboldened or enraged at which point it comes out really weird and particularly hateful. The problem is not what they are saying, the problem is what they are.
Posted by: MunkarKat   2005-10-05 15:31  

#10  hodiak47, the reason was apparent as early as the late 70's: in London, the moderately priced restaurants had menus in English; the expensive restaurants had menus in English and Arabic; the really expensive restaurants had menus in Arabic.
Posted by: RWV   2005-10-05 14:38  

#9  The episode also discussed the Islamic view of Christians, Jews and Hindus and the reality that some Muslims consider members of other religions as atheists.

I'll go ya one further, there Beeb. Being a Christian, I believe all other religions are atheistic at the core. That's not exactly a "Got Ya" moment there. However, the BIG difference, is the reaction to that belief. All the other religions go about trying to convert them to their religion, but the moose limbs go out and just kill ya if you don't convert! BIG difference in my mind!
Posted by: BA   2005-10-05 12:14  

#8  Why the English are just so happy to bend over backwards for their muslim brothers. The consistent degenerate left culture will soothe the always ruffled feathers of arab carrion. Been to Londonistan lately?
Posted by: hodiak47   2005-10-05 08:45  

#7  Why does this come across like the Dem's own comments that all they have to do is "find the right message" in order to return to power and not seek real self-examination and change? The echo of Dean.
Posted by: Javirt Thrusing6823   2005-10-05 08:44  

#6  Well, you're right... Okay, we're covered - the amber will end her warnings, lol.
Posted by: .com   2005-10-05 08:22  

#5  A Moderate Muzzy! Wow! Quick! Cast her in amber, lest she be lost!

Not so fast. Couldn't her point be, "hey, guys, they're on to us"?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-10-05 08:11  

#4  Heh, H, are they stricken from the "A" list for awhile when they do things like this?
Posted by: .com   2005-10-05 08:06  

#3  God Bless Panorama - the Beeb do occasionally get it right. Watching the supposed moderates (Sacranie et al) being confronted with translations of their extremist comments made in arabic to arabic media was worth a year's TV licence fee in itself... showed us just who we're dealing with.. a bunch of Nazis. Ship em out...
Posted by: Howard UK   2005-10-05 08:01  

#2  A Moderate Muzzy! Wow! Quick! Cast her in amber, lest she be lost!

Re; the BBC "gotcha" piece on Panorama, sometimes it's just too juicy, just too tempting, thus too good to pass up, it seems. They revert to form immediately afterwards - if it's not their precious asses in London on the line.
Posted by: .com   2005-10-05 07:40  

#1  Give that man a cluebat! We are listening, and we hear you hating us and demanding our death or conversion. Arabs are going to be doomed to a perminate third world country status if they don't shape up. We are going to develop alternitive fuels if you keep pissing us off and then you can just drown on all that worthless oil you have.
Posted by: mmurray821   2005-10-05 07:37  

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