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| More violence rocks Paris suburb | |
| 2005-10-31 | |
| Violence has flared for a fourth night in a north-east Paris suburb, but not on the same scale as before. Six policemen were injured and 11 people arrested in the latest confrontations between angry youths and police in Clichy-sous-Bois. Police said one or more teargas canisters were hurled into a mosque from an unidentified source. Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy is to meet the parents of two teenagers whose deaths sparked the riots. Saturday saw hundreds of mourners pay homage to the teenagers by holding a peaceful procession in Clichy-sous-Bois, which has a large immigrant population. The authorities denied rumours that policemen were chasing the two boys who were electrocuted on Thursday after entering an electricity sub-station. Flowers now lie near the spot where Ziad, aged 17, and Banou, 15, died. An official investigation into the boys' deaths is under way. A third young man is seriously ill in hospital. The BBC's Alasdair Sandford in Paris says many in the suburb do not believe the authorities' account that the two boys were not being chased by police. Mr Sarkozy has promised to send special police units into difficult suburbs around France to stamp out violence. But local people in Clichy accuse him of heightening the tensions with inflammatory language. During Saturday's march in memory of the dead teenagers, there were calls for the government to tackle discrimination against immigrant communities such as theirs.
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| Posted by:Steve |
| #21 BTW, we just had a whole city go away (New Orleans) and it barely put a dent in the economy. Classical cities are net revenue sinks and contribute very little to the common wealth since the demise of smokestack industries. The Euros missed a real opportunity in the 50's when they decided to hold onto their cities and rebuild them at any cost. If nukes and biologicals _do_ proliferate (and I think that they will) to the point where they become terrorist weapons, the Euros will pay a heavier price still. |
| Posted by: 11A5S 2005-10-31 23:35 |
| #20 Neither the German (from ca. 408 AD) or Arab invasions (from ca. 634 AD) were made up of the conquering hordes of myth. Rome and Byzantium had dealt with sustained barbarian infiltration with half-hearted measures to tame them through settlement schemes. Later, they turned over border defense to barbarian mercenaries and were shocked -- shocked I tell you -- when the barbarians opened the borders to their kinsmen. Meanwhile, insane tax burdens and increasing urbanization (Cities, then as now, were places to die, not reproduce. Spengler [over at Atimes] has grasped only part of the depopulation equation. Education produces lower fertility, but urbanization kills it. The American decision in the 50's to promote suburbanization is saving us while our cities die.* Meanwhile, Europe chose to invest in its cities and is dying. It turns out that the "sterile" suburbs are quite fertile.) led to depopulation. The only mistake that our modern Romans in the EU haven't repeated is the mercenary bit. Though by financing Palestinian proxy armies, they seem to be giving it their best. The French and the rest of the Europeans will continue to decline until their elites let their people live how they want and stop forcing them to live according to failed urbanist theories. Opportunists such as the Muslims will continue to seek advantage as long as the decline continues. * I want to define what a city is carefully. Detroit, NYC, Baltimore, and East St. Louis are all classical, though technologically modern cities. All have experienced depopulation since WWII with large areas within their boundaries actually abandoned. LA, Houston and Phoenix are all conglomerations of suburbs with no real urban core. |
| Posted by: 11A5S 2005-10-31 22:00 |
| #19 Today's Western Euro's could not pour piss out of a boot if the directions were written on the heel. Gadfrey, another little gem. How I love this place! |
| Posted by: Zenster 2005-10-31 20:56 |
| #18 Today's Euro can't even put together a document of unity. Today's Western Euro's could not pour piss out of a boot if the directions were written on the heel. The Euro's will appease the Islamic fucks until they have taken over just like history has told us over and over and over. The continent of death has no balls no direction and no new idea's. I would love to see it burn personally. I would love to see the Eifel tower tumble...maybe I just hate the French...that's not a maybe. I do hate the Frog eating cheese eating surrender monkeys!! |
| Posted by: Long Hair Republican 2005-10-31 20:06 |
| #17 I thought pa-tooey meant "of whom I am so jealous" in french. |
| Posted by: Ominemp Glinesing5278 2005-10-31 19:31 |
| #16 What about our spy in frogistan? Where's J? |
| Posted by: anonymous2u 2005-10-31 19:30 |
| #15 Perhaps, like Muslims, the French are equally incapable of penetrating the mysterious riddle of Cause & Effect. Maybe they need to confer safe haven upon the soon-to-be ousted Iranian mullahs in order to finally gain full appreciation of this timeless conundrum. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2005-10-31 19:28 |
| #14 Perhaps, like Muslims, the French are equally incapable of penetrating the mysterious riddle of Cause & Effect. Maybe they need to confer safe haven upon the soon-to-be ousted Iranian mullahs in order to finally gain full appreciation of this timeless conundrum. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2005-10-31 18:58 |
| #13 Even if the Nameless One was trying to be sarcastic, ed's post still rocks, lol. |
| Posted by: .com 2005-10-31 16:00 |
| #12 I regret I forgot to sign my "pa-tooey". Now you have my panties all in a bunch. |
| Posted by: Jacques Chirac 2005-10-31 13:47 |
| #11 Saying "Islam is not a problem in France" is like saying Hitler never enjoyed Paris. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-10-31 13:47 |
| #10 "French Elite" Not an oxymoron but certainly redundant. Like a "free gift". |
| Posted by: intrinsicpilot 2005-10-31 13:42 |
| #9 Um, guys, I kinda sorta detected a sarcasm tag on post #6. Would anyone seriously use "pa-tooey"? |
| Posted by: AlanC 2005-10-31 13:24 |
| #8 No, Islam is more like a civilizational virus. It seeds itself into civilizations (such as Europe) and changes it to shit, then it moves on. It did it in what is now Iraq/Iran/Pakistan - destroying those once-high civilizations. Then tried to move on to Europe / India but was stopped (by Crusades and Hindu resistance) - it is still trying to spread. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2005-10-31 12:05 |
| #7 Islam is the problem Oh Nameless One. It has turned every square meter it rules into shit. Muslims are drowning in shit and fight to flee it everyday. The truly sad part is that wherever they flee to, they do not learn, and turn their host country into shit. But don't fret much longer. The Europeans are sick of wading hip deep in your shit and will kick your sorry asses and shit religion back to where you came from. Confine shit to the cesspool where it belongs and burn it whereever it leaks out. |
| Posted by: ed 2005-10-31 11:50 |
| #6 Right.... Just like the Religion of Pieces doesn't cut off infidel heads or blow up innocent people. Have fun with your coming servitude. |
| Posted by: mmurray821 2005-10-31 11:24 |
| #5 Nicolas Sarkozy hates muslim people! |
| Posted by: Kanye West 2005-10-31 10:36 |
| #4 "French elites" ... isn't that an oxymoron? |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-10-31 09:54 |
| #3 And French elites are worried about the decline of the language and culture to "Anglo" America and the UK. Wonder how traditional cultural norms from muslim immigrants will mersh with French culture? |
| Posted by: MunkarKat 2005-10-31 09:13 |
| #2 What's interesting is how the silent march was quickly organized, with 200 tee-shirts "dead for nothing printed" for the occasion, and well encadred by, you guess it, "religious figures" (a prayer was held at the electricity sub-station); after Perpignan where also the race riots proved to be very well managed and encadred by the islamoleft, now there is Clichy. Note that police denied hurling the teargas canister, this might even be some kind of provocation, although the mosque was not neutral ground since it was apparently a regrouping spot for the youth. In an unrelated incident, a social center in Roubaix, an heavily islamized town in north of France, was sprayed with submachine gun fire; a teen was arrested, with a smg and 200 rounds of ammo; apparently, it was because fo a dispute about a visit at Disneyland (!). Also, there is a similar ongoing riot at Vaulx-en-velin, near Lyon, or at least there was this week-end, but the media are mum about it. Anyway, this is business as usual, such "activity" is almost normal; there is an undeclared intifada in France, that's all. |
| Posted by: anonymous5089 2005-10-31 08:57 |
| #1 Islamic immigrants. But Europe doesn't have a Islam problem. Really.... |
| Posted by: mmurray821 2005-10-31 08:21 |