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Israeli Rabbis Issue Guidelines for Names
2005-11-03
A group of Israeli rabbis has put together a list of names they say should be off-limits to Jewish children — including Ariel and Omri, the given names of Israel's prime minister and his eldest son.
Got a lot of time on their hands, do they?
Uttering the name Ariel is problematic because it could beckon an angel namesake instead, drawing down his wrath, they caution.
That happened with my first son. I named him Ariel, and the first time I tried calling him he was carried off by demons. Just ruined my day. Didn't do much for his, either, I guess. I often wonder what happened to him...
Omri — the name of an evil biblical king — should be taboo because of the highly negative connotation.
You probably shouldn't name your child Richard III, either...
And naming children after dismantled Gaza settlements, like Katif, is another bad idea, they say, because of the controversy involved. Jewish settlers, who are predominantly religious, unsuccessfully opposed the withdrawal.
How about "Yonkers"? There are still people there, some of them Jews...
The rabbis' list, presented on an Internet site, http://www.moriya.org.il, also offers preferred names.
First on the list: "Rabbi", a fine, manly name for a boy...
Rabbis said they compiled the list in response to a flood of requests from parents concerned they may accidentally give their children names that could shame them for life. The rabbis have a significant following among Jews of Middle Eastern descent, who make up about half the Israeli population.
Those'd be the ones who're used to being told what to do, I guess...
What other names raise rabbinical ire? All those that sound non-Jewish — such as Donna, Barr and Shirley. So do typically male names given to girls — like Roni and Danielle — as well as names that include the suffix or prefix "el," which means God in Hebrew.
I guess "Christopher" is out, too, huh? Though "Elmer" and "Elwood" are a small enough loss...
But parents should be careful. Only those names with a very negative connotation, like Omri, should be changed so as not to risk traumatizing the children. Instead, parents can slightly alter their children's names to Hebraicize them, for example, changing Susie to Shoshi, which means "Rosie."
Or "Robert" to "Rabbi."
Concerned parents' questions also appear on the Web site. "When my daughter was born, we called her Roni, but I was never comfortable with the name," wrote a woman who gave her name only as Liat.
Well, that's an unfortunate name. It means "blood" in Thai, so she should probably change it...
"Afterward I had a dream that it was not good to call her Roni. What should I do?"
I think I'd drink more. That way you'll sleep better, except for when you have to get up to go to the bathroom...
"Change it," was the reply.
You don't have to go to the courthouse to have a drink or two...
According to Judaism, names are very important and each person's soul has a designated name, the Web site explains. The names follow people into their afterlife and, while waiting at the gates of heaven, people must give their names.
You mean they don't know before you get there? What happens if you lie and say your name's "Cletus" or "Sven"?
Israel's Interior Ministry has barred the names God, Hitler and Bin Laden from being registered in its population files, said Sabine Haddad, a spokeswoman for the Census Bureau.
"Sabine"? You mean like the Sabine ladies who were carried off by the Romans and raped? She should change that.
Posted by:Fred

#9  You're sick, Frank.

I love it. :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2005-11-03 23:52  

#8  I named my first Queso Coatl, and I immediately was harrassed by the Aztec God of Cheese, Outerwear, Calypso Music and Numerology
Posted by: Frank G   2005-11-03 22:21  

#7  BigEd,

As long as your family name isn't Fudd.
Posted by: Eric Jablow   2005-11-03 21:41  

#6  Omri is the father of Ahab and a "bad" king.

Now we know why the son spent all his time looking for that whale...
Posted by: Pappy   2005-11-03 11:28  

#5  Names are of course important assertions of identity. Traditional Jews favored the names of biblical heroes - patriarchs, prophets, good kings, etc and for girls matriarchs, and other positive role models like Deborah and Hannah. Secular Israeli Jews often give secular names - Arieh means lion, Shoshanah means rose (from whence Susan) etc - a custom that has spread to the Diaspora.

More militanty secularist Jews in ISrael picked names that no religious Jew would consider acceptable - like Amnon - a son of David who rebels against his father and rapes his sister. giving your kid a name like Amnon says - "im nationally Jewish - see i picked an ancient Hebrew name - but Im totally NOT in synch with the jewish religion"

The business of confusion with archangels is a new one on me - Ive certainly known of plenty of Orthodox Jews named Michael, for ex.

Omri is the father of Ahab and a "bad" king.

Sharon was raised on Kibbutz, so its no surprise hed have a secular name. I guess his son was born before he reached political prominence.


Interesting difference between Jews and Christians in use of matriarchal names. Christians seldom give the name Leah - whereas its one of the commonest names for Jewish girls. Contrast Rebecca, her sister - a common name in BOTH traditions. Leah, to Christians is the unloved wife of Jacob - whod want to name your daughter after HER? To Jews, Leah is the mother of Judah, and thus the "mother" of King David, and thus the "mother" of the Moshiach. One of the most honorable names one could have.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2005-11-03 10:47  

#4  Though "Elmer" and "Elwood" are a small enough loss...

Fred : My dad was Elmer. Be nice.
Posted by: BigEd   2005-11-03 10:40  

#3  Fred's rolling.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-11-03 09:59  

#2  Stupid, but you can bet they won't be beheading those who ignore their declaration.

Israel's Interior Ministry has barred the names God, Hitler and Bin Laden from being registered in its population files, said Sabine Haddad, a spokeswoman for the Census Bureau.

I don't have a problem with that. I wouldn't have a problem if they added Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. to the list, too.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-11-03 08:06  

#1  I think it's time to Ask the Imam.
Posted by: ed   2005-11-03 02:31  

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