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| Five U.S. Soldiers Sentenced in Abuse Cases | |
| 2005-12-20 | |
| Five soldiers from an elite U.S. Army unit have been sentenced to up to six months confinement in cases concerning the abuse of detainees in Iraq, the U.S. military said Monday. The five, all from the 75th Ranger Regiment, pleaded guilty during courts martial this month and received sentences ranging from 30-day to six-month confinements and reduction in rank, the U.S. military said in a statement. Two of them will also be dishonorably discharged from the army after serving their time. It did not identify any of the soldiers. The statement said the charges were brought after an investigation into allegations of abuse on Sept. 7, but did not provide any details of the nature of the abuse or where it took place. All five pleaded guilty to dereliction of duty, while four pleaded guilty to charges of assault and battery and two pleaded guilty to maltreatment, the military said. In November, the U.S. military announced that five soldiers from the 75th Ranger Regiment had been charged in connection with a Sept. 7 incident "in which three detainees were allegedly punched and kicked while awaiting movement to a detention facility."
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| Posted by:Fred |
| #6 The end result does absolutely nothing for our ability to interrogate or turn bad guys Two problems: What ability to interrogate? The MSM has been quite successful in its efforts to curtail our ability to interrogate until it is no existant. So what's the loss? People can be interrogated until they die. The results will be more tactically oriented, but methods less subject to review. All in all, a very bad trend and a reminder of why to be careful of what you wish for; you just might get it. |
| Posted by: Jens Crons7316 2005-12-20 12:45 |
| #5 except field captures that need to be interrogated immediately to CIA field operatives and let them perform all the coercion Crap like these "convictions" has a way of being handled without further comment by men in the ranks as, "ok slimeball JAG officers and weak kneed leadership, figure on seeing the number of "field captures" decline precipitously, have a nice fucking day." "They broke contact and ran sir, until one of em spun around sprayed us with an RPD. We put em all down sir, all of em." The end result does absolutely nothing for our ability to interrogate or turn bad guys. Dead bad guys don't blabber to the media, or bitch much about shoulder punches and rough handling. Nor do they provide much actionable intelligence. They just be dead Leonard. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-12-20 11:39 |
| #4 From here on out, turn over all detainees except field captures that need to be interrogated immediately to CIA field operatives and let them perform all the coercion. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2005-12-20 09:09 |
| #3 House cleaning. Will MSM acknowledge that the American armed services are cleaning its own ranks far better than anyother in history.? NO. Will MSM acknowledge that today the American system works where all others fail to measure up? NO. Will MSM carry the words and pictures of the destructive behavior of a few for days or weeks on end while ignoring the hundred/thousand instances of humanity and aid rendered by the rank and file? YES. |
| Posted by: Thearong Glomort1317 2005-12-20 08:14 |
| #2 Actually, it probably will. The Rangers are justly proud of their high standards. |
| Posted by: lotp 2005-12-20 00:29 |
| #1 So "punching and kicking" the enemy terrorists results in the ruined careers of some of the best fighting men we can muster. Lovely, just fucking lovely. A very. very sad day indeed. This will do much for recruiting and retention in the Ranger Regiment. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-12-20 00:21 |