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Pakistan probes reports of al-Zawahiri death
2006-01-14
Pakistan says it is investigating US media reports that Al Qaeda deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahiri may have died in a US air strike on a village near the Afghan border. Pakistani Information Minister Sheikh Rashid has not confirmed details of the attack, or whether Al Qaeda's number two was the target. The US television network ABC has quoted Pakistani military sources as saying five of a reported 18 people killed were suspected senior Al Qaeda members. Earlier, residents of the tribal region of Bajaur and local security officials said at least 14 people were killed in what they believe was a missile attack launched from Afghanistan.
I'm not going to get my hopes up too much at this stage, but it's obvious he was the target, and the thought of getting five Qaeda bigs makes my little heart go pitty-pat. It's interesting to compare this to the original Pak Daily Times story, where the carnage was limited to sweet little old granny ladies who baked cookies, kiddies, fuzzy puppies, and baby ducks.

Pak Daily Times, original version...
PESHAWAR: Eighteen people, mostly women and children, were killed on Friday morning as missiles allegedly fired by US aircraft hit three houses in Bajaur Agency near the Afghan border. Two wounded women were admitted to a hospital in Khar, the Bajaur Agency headquarters. They were said to be in serious condition.
No mention of any Qaeda bigs, or even adult males...
“The killings occurred in my neighbourhood. Eighteen people, most of whom were women and children, were killed and buried in a mass grave,” Bajaur Agency Member of National Assembly (MNA) Haroon Rashid said.
The local pols rush forth to denounce the attack. Haroon al-Rashid (that's gotta be an alias), living in the neighborhood as he does, can be expected to be aware of any foreigners or other tough guys wandering around, so if it turns out Ayman is one of the corpses, or even just that five of the corpses are high-ranking al-Qaeda figures, he's branded as a liar and as a traitor to his country...
Three houses were targeted in the attack in Damadola village, 30 kilometres north of Khar, in Mamoond tehsil at 3:00am.
Everyone should be expected to be snuggy-bye at 3 a.m...
The houses were 50 kilometres from the Afghan border overlooking Kunar province, a hotbed of anti-US insurgency.
... and often stated to be the current stomping grounds of Binny and/or Ayman...
Local administration official Abdul Qayyum said it was unclear what had actually happened.
Sounds like the place was rocketed. What do you think, Abdul?
A fact-finding team was being dispatched to the area to investigate the incident, he said. Federal Information Minister Sheikh Rashid said: “Our agencies have not yet clarified exactly what happened.” US forces in Afghanistan killed eight tribesmen in a similar attack on January 8 in the Saidgai border village.
Now, why would they do something like that?
Local residents said that two of the six children killed were six years old.
The baby ducks were freshly hatched, and the fluffy bunnies barely weaned...
“The limbs of the dead were scattered all over the place,” said Lateef Khan, a local resident.
They didn't use the little rockets, huh?
The Bajaur Agency MNA said that if the government had not carried out the strikes, US forces in Afghanistan are the only possible explanation. “Two US spy planes have been spotted over the village for the last three days,” he said.
That's a bad sign. If Ayman heard about the spy planes, you know he beat feet before the second one showed up...
However, the federal information minister rejected US involvement in the killings. “American planes did not carry out the strikes. There was an explosion, and that may have caused the casualties,” he said.
That's 'cuz we'd never violate Pak sovreignty, since they'd never harbor our sworn enemies on their territory...
Masood Khan, whose house was among those bombed and whose family was killed in the attack, said that he was asleep when he suddenly heard a loud explosion. Khan denied having any links with Al Qaeda or any banned militant organisation. “We have nothing to do with these groups,” he said. “We are innocent. We have been treated unjustly, and leave it to God to do justice.”
"We are innocent, but well-armed, hill folk!"
The attack generated anger among the tribesmen, and MNA Rashid asked the people to attend a protest meeting organised by Jamaat-e-Islami on Saturday to condemn “the uncalled-for aggression”.
If Ayman was there, it was called-for. Yet another case of the Jamaat jumping to the defense of the hard boyz, but we're used to that.
A security official said that wanted Al Qaeda suspect Maulana Faqir Muhammad’s house is located 10 kilometres from the site of the strikes.
I don't think that's what they were shooting for...

A tiny bit more, from AP...
An airstrike in a remote Pakistani tribal area killed at least 17 people, and a senior Pakistani official said Saturday the target was a suspected al-Qaida hideout that may have been frequented by high-level operatives, possibly the No. 2 leader Ayman al-Zawahri. Citing unnamed American intelligence officials, U.S. networks reported that it was a CIA strike and that al-Zawahri, Osama bin Laden's lieutenant, could have been at a targeted compound in the Bajur area or about to arrive.

There was no confirmation from either the Pakistani or U.S. government, but a senior Pakistani government official told The Associated Press that "there is 50-50 chance that some al-Qaida personality was at the home" that was hit early Friday in the border village of Damadola, about 125 miles northwest of the capital Islamabad. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue, said Saturday that he had heard that the al-Qaida figure may have been al-Zawahri and that the information would be clearer later Saturday. ABC quoted anonymous Pakistani military sources as saying he could have been among five top al-Qaida officials believed killed. A senior Pakistani intelligence official told AP that the remains of some bodies were removed after the strike and DNA tests were being conducted, but would not say by whom.
Posted by:Fred

#19  Masood Khan, whose house was among those bombed and whose family was killed in the attack, said that he was asleep when he suddenly heard a loud explosion.

And just why was he "Sleeping" somewhere else than home?
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2006-01-14 19:58  

#18  5 VPees of Operations would be fine tW.
Posted by: 6   2006-01-14 10:52  

#17  The key to this war is not getting the man at the top -- visionaries aren't hard to find. Key is removing those capable of organizing the execution of that vision, so that the top man is isolated and alone, and the cannon fodder mill aimlessly and ineffectively until they are arrested, killed, or wander back home in disgrace. The West (not just the U.S.) has been doing a wonderful job of taking out that layer of management (who is #3 these days in Iraq? in Fallujah? etc).

I would be very satisfied if only five [unknown to me] senior A.Q. men had been killed in this particular raid. There are few worse hells for a go-get'em kind of guy like Zawahiri than to be hiding in the goat shed of the Tribal village idiot, with no wives and children to wait on his very word, and no clever lieutenants to execute his clever ideas. Let's keep shooting missiles at A.Q. conventions, and never mind only aiming for the Alpha male. Besides, there should be a high cost for even associating with these men. Darwin effect, wiping out the entire line of descent, sounds about right to me.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-01-14 10:03  

#16  That's 'cuz we'd never violate Pak sovreignty, since they'd never harbor our sworn enemies on their territory...

LOL! We score better when we play the game by their rules.
Posted by: 2b   2006-01-14 06:45  

#15  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060114/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_al_qaida_attack
al-Qaida Leader Not at Site of Airstrike By RIAZ KHAN, Associated Press Writer
10 minutes ago



DAMADOLA, Pakistan - Al-Qaida's second-in-command was not at the site of a U.S. airstrike on a Pakistan village near the Afghan border that killed at least 17 people, two senior Pakistani officials said Saturday.
The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject, said that Pakistan's own investigation concluded that Ayman al-Zawahri was not in the village of Damadola.

"Their information was wrong, and our investigations conclude that they acted on a false information," said a senior intelligence official who has direct knowledge of the investigations launched by Pakistan to look into the attacks.

Separately, a senior government official told AP that al-Zawahri was not present at the homes which were attacked.

"He was not there, and this is what we know after a detailed probe" into the incident, he said.

Pakistan's government was expected to formally issue its reaction on the attack later Saturday.


Posted by: Glenmore   2006-01-14 06:22  

#14  The US should let Aljazeera show the hellfire hit, like the Yasin assassination by Israel. Brains cooking in his own lap, while gazing wide eyed into astonishment! Al-Zawahiri would only be flattered flattened!
Posted by: smn   2006-01-14 02:17  

#13  fingers crossed
Posted by: MacNails   2006-01-14 02:02  

#12  Oh, sinner man, where you gonna run to
Oh, sinner man, where you gonna run to
Oh, sinner man, where you gonna run to
All on that day

Run to the rock, rock was a meltin'
Run to the sea, sea was a boilin'
Run to the moon, moon was a bleedin'
Run to the Lord, Lord won't you hide me?
Lord said "Sinner man, you shoulda been a prayin'"

Oh, sinner man, where you gonna run to
Oh, sinner man, where you gonna run to
Oh, sinner man, where you gonna run to
All on that day?
Posted by: 3dc   2006-01-14 01:22  

#11  With such a big target why not a bigger bomb.
The area targeted does not even abide by international law. It's us or them. Until the world turns were still the big man on the block so it's time for a MOAB. Fuck'em!!
Posted by: Long Hair Republican   2006-01-14 01:09  

#10  Maybe then Rooters got him mixed up with Baby Assad then. Hopefully it will be cleared up in his obit on Sunday. Inshallah.

Posted by: JAB   2006-01-14 01:00  

#9  I'm pretty sure you're right - pediatrician
Posted by: Frank G   2006-01-14 00:50  

#8  Another thing. I knew Zawahiri was a doctor but did not know he was an eye surgeon. For some reason I thought pediatrician.

Anybody know for sure? Maybe Reuters got him mixed up with Baby Assad? Or, is there just something about the eye doctors in the region?
Posted by: JAB   2006-01-14 00:49  

#7  It's the middle of winter, deep snow, travel will be very difficult. Even if they saw the UAVs the chances are good they wouldn't have gone far.
Posted by: phil_b   2006-01-14 00:48  

#6  well, even if he did get away, as they always seem to do, I'm hoping that zawahiri has gone to hide in the same place that binny and zarqawi went....in that hiding place that's really, really, really deep.... so deep that we never hear from them again.
Posted by: 2b   2006-01-14 00:47  

#5  Rooters has more that the ABC AU story. The locals admit to hosting a few visitors to celebrate Eid al-Adha.

Happy Eid, Ayman.
Posted by: JAB   2006-01-14 00:39  

#4  I'd say another strike on the Jammaat protest party is called for. Sure to be some unwanteds there or just a collection of assholes that would be better off taking dirt naps anyway...
Posted by: Frank G   2006-01-14 00:35  

#3  "senior Pakistani government official told The Associated Press that "there is 50-50 chance that some al-Qaida personality was at the home"

yeah right... CIA risks an international incident on a 50-50 chance to bag an Al Qaeda person of interrest. I wonder who was covering the backdoor?
Posted by: TomAnon   2006-01-14 00:29  

#2  Hope we had a valid FISA warrant before tracking Zawahiri just in case he called somebody in the US.

It's not looking as good as earlier today. The AP story is down to a 50% chance and Fred makes a good point that Z would have fled if Predators were buzzing around earlier.
Posted by: JAB   2006-01-14 00:26  

#1  It's actually amazing, and I have to consciously shake off the automatic Western-think mode to do it, but weren't any of the mooks in PakiWakiLand watching when their treasured ISI creation, the Taliban, were summarily toppled with minimal US forces and without breaking a sweat? Hell, the whole process was slowed down to make it a Northern Alliance thingy.

Geez. The CogDis problem is remarkable - even in fuckwit-think mode.

The "alliance of convenience" with Pervy hasn't long to run, methinks. I'll be happier when that mud is removed from the water and we are rid of (yet another) State Dept stripey-pants obligation.

PakiWakiLand. Like a whole 'nuther unreality.
Posted by: .com   2006-01-14 00:14  

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