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Bin Laden offers Americans truce
2006-01-19
From al-Jizzles, the detail...
In an audio tape broadcast on Aljazeera, Osama bin Laden has warned that al-Qaida was preparing an attack very soon, but also offered Americans a "long-term truce".
... upon which at least a third of Congressional Dems are going to jump...
"The new operations of al-Qaida has not happened not because we could not penetrate the security measures. It is being prepared and you'll see it in your homeland very soon," the voice attributed to bin Laden said, apparently addressing Americans. But the voice on the tape, which appeared to be aimed at the American public, also offered a truce: "We do not mind establishing a long-term truce between us and you."
"It would last until we can train up some more bigshots. We're running a little short lately..."
The tape, broadcast on Thursday but dated to December last year, comes after a year of silence from the al-Qaida leader.
Ayman's done most of the talking. Ayman almost(?) gets zapped and suddenly Binny's talkative. I'm wondering about that "almost." And I'm oiling up my ululator.
"This message is about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and how to end those wars," it began.
"It was not my intention to talk to you about this, because those wars are definitely going our way.

"But what triggered my desire to talk to you is the continuous deliberate misinformation given by your President [George] Bush, when it comes to polls made in your home country which reveal that the majority of your people are willing to withdraw US forces from Iraq.

"We know that the majority of your people want this war to end and opinion polls show the Americans don't want to fight the Muslims on Muslim land, nor do they want Muslims to fight them on their (US) land.

"But Bush does not want this and claims that it's better to fight his enemies on their land rather than on American land.

"Bush tried to ignore the polls that demanded that he end the war in Iraq.

"We are getting increasingly stronger while your situation is getting from bad to worse," he told the US, referring to poor US troop morale and the huge economic losses inflicted by the war.

"The war in Iraq is raging and the operations in Afghanistan are increasing."

Truce offer

"In response to the substance of the polls in the US, which indicate that Americans do not want to fight Muslims on Muslim land, nor do they want Muslims to fight them on their land, we do not mind offering a long-term truce based on just conditions that we will stick to.

"We are a nation that Allah banned from lying and stabbing others in the back, hence both parties of the truce will enjoy stability and security to rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan, which were destroyed by war.

"There is no problem in this solution, but it will prevent hundreds of billions from going to influential people and warlords in America - those who supported Bush's electoral campaign - and from this, we can understand Bush and his gang's insistence on continuing the war."

Addressing Americans again, he said: "If your desire for peace, stability and reconciliation was true, here we have given you the answer to your call."

Bin Laden, who had not been heard of since a 27 December 2004 audiotape in which he anointed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Iraq's most wanted man, as al-Qaida's leader in Iraq, also said his network was winning the war against the US.

"I would like to tell you that everything is going to our advantage and the number of your dead is increasing, according to Pentagon figures."
Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's deputy, said in a September videotape that his leader was still alive and leading the jihad against the West.
.. and dhimmies accept the truce. Let the demonstrations begin.
Posted by:Whineger Phaviting8058

#32  ..but also offered Americans a "long-term truce".

Message that should be sent back: Phuck you and your "truce".
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2006-01-19 21:34  

#31  I got 5 bucks that says we don't get hit "soon" (90 days) DPA.
Posted by: Ol Dirty American   2006-01-19 21:25  

#30  hasn't he historically made offers of peace if the infidels give up right before an attack? We'll see...
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American   2006-01-19 20:19  

#29  No peace but the peace of the grave.
Posted by: Grunter   2006-01-19 20:01  

#28  Nancy keeps telling us, they are developing a plan.

I thought the plan was, that they weren't going to offer a plan?
Posted by: Pappy   2006-01-19 18:55  

#27  In Dec04, Binny depended on Michael Moore for his material. This go round, Binny is channeling

Posted by: doc   2006-01-19 18:42  

#26  How does just plain NO! sound. I have over 4,000 reasons we should remain vigilant until he and his terrorists are destroyed.
Posted by: 49 Pan   2006-01-19 18:41  

#25  .com is right on. Thank God that these idiots wanted the glory for themselves, not for future generations. So they could'nt wait much longer for the war to happen, less they not be glorified.
Posted by: plainslow   2006-01-19 15:58  

#24  Actually, Ptah addresses this rather well in a post at his site www.crusaderwarcollege.org. Go ye, and read of his wisdom! ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-01-19 15:37  

#23  Make that strategically clueless. PIMF.
Posted by: .com   2006-01-19 15:16  

#22  I'm in, ed. They're playing the Long Game. When we finally become tired of the WoT (happening all around us already) and so self-absorbed and juvenile that we're back to navel-gazing, then it will begin anew. It's to our immense advantage that they're tactically clueless. They started this about a decade too soon. Thank your Lucky Stars that they did it when they did and that Dubya grew into the shoes, not to mention that he beat Gore and Skeery. Just imagine...
Posted by: .com   2006-01-19 15:15  

#21  Binny didn't blink. The quran says to offer a truce when the muslims are in a bad position. It's just an acknowledgement of facts on the ground and a desire to regroup and attack when our guard is down again.
Posted by: ed   2006-01-19 15:11  

#20  Binny blinked.
Oh, and he thinks we don't want to fight Muslims in our own land...Bullshite, we have these pesky laws keeping us from annihilating y'all.
Posted by: wxjames   2006-01-19 14:56  

#19  SM listed suras 9:4 and 9:5. Basically it's saying to honor the hudna (no more than 10 years) if the infidels also honor it. At expiry, it's jihad again.

Since Surah 9 was the last (some say next to last) chapter of the quran to be revealed, it supercedes all the be nice to the idolaters verses Mo spouted while he was weak.
Posted by: ed   2006-01-19 14:33  

#18  secret master gives two alternate quotes for 9:5

a site with 3 translations is at:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html

Chapter 9 has most of the verses that inform Jihad law.
Posted by: mhw   2006-01-19 13:47  

#17  Sorry, pigf*ker, my religion specifically probits me from talking to dead mean.
Posted by: Elmack Spaish8416   2006-01-19 13:42  

#16  rather than spin this as a DU conspiracy or neocon conspiracy, it would be nice to use this "offer" as a teachable moment to tell people what a hudna is

Wikipedia has a good write up
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Hudna
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Hudna (åÏäÉ) is an Arabic term meaning "truce" or "armistice" as well as "calm" or "quiet", coming from a verbal root meaning "calm". It is sometimes translated as "cease-fire". In the Lisan al-Arab (Ibn al-Manzur's definitive dictionary of classical Arabic, dating to the 14th century) it is defined as follows:

"hadana: he grew quiet. hadina: he quieted (transitive or intransitive). haadana: he made peace with. The noun from each of these is hudna."
A particularly famous early hudna was the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah between Muhammad and the Quraysh tribe.

According to Umdat as-Salik, a medieval summary of Shafi'i jurisprudence, hudnas with a non-Muslim enemy should be limited to 10 years: "if Muslims are weak, a truce may be made for ten years if necessary, for the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) made a truce with the Quraysh for that long, as is related by Abu Dawud" ('Umdat as-Salik, o9.16).

Posted by: mhw   2006-01-19 13:41  

#15  009.005 But the treaties are not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term.

009.005 But when the forbidden months are past [when the 'treaties' expire] then fight and slay the Pagans [wherever] ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war.


No hudna for me, thank you very much. I'll pass.
Posted by: Secret Master   2006-01-19 13:39  

#14  We are a nation that Allah banned from lying and stabbing others in the back

Have we been reading the same Koran, Binny?
Posted by: Secret Master   2006-01-19 13:30  

#13  Benny's speech sounds like it was written by the leading Demo politicians

don't know who wrote it, but it sure sounds like it was taped a good while ago -- no specifics. It may also be the offer of hudna that preceeds (when it is ignored) an attack.
Posted by: lotp   2006-01-19 13:28  

#12  The bin Laden truce and the Murtha withdrawal plan are pretty much the same document.

Wonder if anyone but us Rantburgers will notice?
Posted by: Mike   2006-01-19 13:27  

#11  Can't wait for one of the "intellectuals" to say this is evidence that poor Binny's been misunderstood. All he really needs is a hug, an Iron John drumming session, or something like that.
Posted by: Desert Blondie   2006-01-19 13:23  

#10  .com he has a pretty good grasp of the geopolitix of the region. Thanks!
Posted by: Seafarious   2006-01-19 13:22  

#9  Here are our terms for your "truce": Your unconditional surrender and war criminal trial--or death by Hellfire. Either is fine by me.

I'd also like to state how proud this American taxpayer is of the spooks who nailed the 3-4 al Qaida ops in Pakistan this past week. Nice shootin', boys! Keep up the great work!

I just love the timing of this "truce" offer right after the Pakistan strike... the offer tape was probably recorded and planned for release before the strike happened, but the timing is excellent and makes it appear al-Qaida is crying "Uncle".
Posted by: Dar   2006-01-19 13:16  

#8  Truce my ass. I have just one question, when they put this towel head in the ground will they put an outhouse over his grave...?
Posted by: Flinenter Phelet8865   2006-01-19 13:09  

#7  The LLL/Dums must be proud he covered all of the talking points, military industrial complex, warmongers made Bush pres, Americans don’t support US WOT (same polls the Dums have made and tout), US is losing, blah blah blah.

You could fill in Bin Laden name for Kerry, Shenan, Dean, Kennedy, Pelosi, Moore and it would just sound like another LLL radio address.
Posted by: C-Low   2006-01-19 13:07  

#6  Though obviously intended as a slam of Americans, the artist who created this image actually got it more right than his Lefty Moonbat Kool Aid addled PCism allowed him to realize, heh. It's a prominent feature of Tranzis in the terminal stage of BDS. I figure it will give many of you a case of the giggles. ;-)
Posted by: .com   2006-01-19 12:42  

#5  Benny's speech sounds like it was written by the leading Demo politicians. Nancy keeps telling us, they are developing a plan. Maybe Benny is delivering this as a dry run for them.

With Hillary saying Bush isn't being tough enough on the MMs in Iran and calling for sanctions, now Benny offering truce, wonder how she's going to square this? Attack the Iranians, and maybe Benny will offer a truce for them also?

And wonder if the Demos will realize now, that we are at war. I mean, how can you have a truce if there is no war? So, if Dems start screaming for "talks for this truce," will they admit we are at war?

There's something about cause and effect here, that just seems to be circling around in my head, not landing anywhere. Oh well, it almost time for lunch, maybe food will help this circling entity to find a resting place.
Posted by: Sherry   2006-01-19 12:42  

#4  Truce? OK, right after the US annexes Arabia.
Posted by: ed   2006-01-19 12:29  

#3  There was a Tumbleweeds comic strip years ago that applies to this situation. The indian chief asks the Colonel of a cavelry fort to surrender the fort. "Give me one good reason", the officer asks. "Because you're losing", replies the chief. "Need a better reason than that", says Colonel Fluster. "Because we're winning", says the chief.

Binny should take parable to heart.
Posted by: Jim K   2006-01-19 12:28  

#2  
Posted by: .com   2006-01-19 12:27  

#1  I gotta admit, I like the terms. We offer to stop banging Binny's senior officer corps, and he offers to...retire to his cave to continue plotting the demise of Civilization and to be measured for his new Caliph turban.

Where do we sign?
Posted by: Seafarious   2006-01-19 12:22  

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