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Fifth Column
Academic sez we should negotiate with Binny
2006-01-30
Osama bin Laden's offer of a truce has sunk from sight without leaving a ripple, but it should have made waves. When the audiotaped proposal was made 10 days ago, the White House dismissed it out of hand. That was a politically logical move, given the need to appear tough on terror at all times. An image of strength and determination may be particularly important in the months ahead because Republican Party leaders have put security issues at the heart of their 2006 congressional election campaign strategy.

But there are reasons why bin Laden's overture should be carefully weighed and thoughtfully debated.
Do tell...
Posted by:Dan Darling

#6  The people of Aghanistan, to judge by recent opinon polls, are no longer suffering.
Posted by: Perfesser   2006-01-30 15:19  

#5  The moral imperative that should drive us is a sincere desire to end the long suffering of the people of Iraq and Afghanistan.

This made no sense at all. As a result, I didn't even bother to finish the reading the rest.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2006-01-30 14:02  

#4  The moral imperative that should drive us is a sincere desire to end the long suffering of the people of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Rubbish! Been tried many times before, never seems to werk.
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-01-30 09:19  

#3  John Arquilla is professor of defense analysis at the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey.

That's the scariest part of this post. When did they start hiring airhead Kumbaya idiots?
Posted by: tu3031   2006-01-30 09:14  

#2  Who wrote this? Neville Chamberlan? This guy hopes for 'Peace in our Time!'. Does he really think that Bin Laden would honor any agreement once he is able to regroup and re-arm?

And I wouldn't cal Murtha a 'respected congressman'.

Correct me if I'm wrong (and I was only about 14 at the time) but Nixons 'Overture to China' during the Vietnam war didn't help the victims of the re-education camps very much did it? Or those who chose to risk the open-sea in a open-boat over living in the workers paradise?

BTW: Thanks for the info Mike.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2006-01-30 09:03  

#1  Two hundred years ago, Thomas Jefferson bargained with the Barbary pirates (the Muslim terrorists of their day) while at the same time the Navy and Marines put military pressure on them.

Hold it.
First, Jefferson negotiated only because he really had no other choice. His SecTreas, Albert Gallatin had tried to actually disband the USN on the grounds that since we had won the naval war with France, we didn't need a Navy now, did we? Congress, BTW, supported Gallatin - it was only some last minute shenanigans by the outgoing Adams administration that saved the Navy and Marines at all.
Second, Congress was adamantly against any kind of serious military action against the Pirates - the handful of raids and attacks that did happen took place only after thoroughly embarassing incidents like the loss of the frigate Philadelphia (imagine the reaction if a modern missile cruiser was captured by the Iranians).
Third, the 'pressure' wasn't much - there was a leaky 'blockade' of the Pirate ports, with a handful of attacks and raids, most notably the one immortalized in the Marine Hymn's 'to the shores of Tripoli.' But NONE of those attacks had any real effect because they were never followed up - or if they were, they were followed up by desperate offers of negotiation.
In short, negotiation and military action only put the Pirates off long enough for them to replace their losses and try again. It wasn't until after the War of 1812 that a USN task force went in and sank on sight any Barbary corsair, guilty or not, that the Pirates finally quit. Readers should draw their own conclusions.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2006-01-30 07:41  

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