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Home Front: WoT
Many Gitmo prisoners never saw battle
2006-02-10
The majority of prisoners at the Guantanamo Bay naval base are not accused of committing hostile acts against the United States or its allies, and only a small percentage were captured by U.S. forces, a review of government documents has found. "The large majority of detainees never participated in any combat against the United States on a battlefield," concluded a report compiled at Seton Hall University's law school, in New Jersey, and given to Reuters on Thursday.
Good. We got them in time.
The report analyzed unclassified government summaries of evidence the military used in 2004 hearings to decide whether 517 Guantanamo detainees were enemy combatants. One of the authors, Seton Hall law professor Mark Denbeaux, represents two Guantanamo prisoners.

The summaries do not use prisoners' names nor do they include secret evidence the review panels considered.

But the analysis provides a picture of who is being held indefinitely at the detention camp the United States set up in Cuba in 2002 to hold suspected terrorists captured in the war against al Qaeda and its Taliban supporters in Afghanistan. The study said 55 percent were not accused in the documents of committing hostile acts against the United States and its coalition allies. Among those where the location of capture was listed, only 5 percent were captured by U.S. forces. The rest were taken by Pakistani forces in Afghanistan and Pakistan, or by the Northern Alliance, an Afghan militia that helped U.S. forces oust the Taliban.

Some were sold to the United States by bounty hunters who then disappeared, making it difficult to verify their claims that the detainee had terrorist connections, the report said. It included copies of leaflets distributed in Afghanistan urging people to "get wealth and power beyond your dreams" by turning in Taliban and al-Qaeda fighters.

The report said the government documents contained formidable evidence that a few Guantanamo detainees are dangerous men with powerful positions in terrorist groups. Eleven percent had met Osama bin Laden and one participated in al Qaeda meetings discussing the September 11 attacks before they occurred, the report said. Another is a high-ranking Taliban member who tortured, maimed and murdered Afghan citizens in Taliban jails, it said.

"The evidence provided for most of the detainees, however, is far less impressive," the report said.
So in the sweep we got some high-level al-Q boys and some low-level mooks.
Only 8 percent were characterized in the government documents as al Qaeda fighters and 16 percent as Taliban fighters, the report said. Some of the rest were considered al Qaeda or Taliban "members," under a definition so broad it could apply to anyone believed to have ever spoken to an al Qaeda or Taliban member, the report said.

Others were deemed "associates" of terrorist organizations, though half the groups cited are not on U.S. government lists of groups it considers terrorist organizations.

The report questions whether associating with the Taliban really makes someone an enemy combatant, since the Taliban government controlled nearly all aspects of Afghan citizens' lives, and conscripted boys as young as 12 to fight. One detainee was considered an enemy combatant because he was conscripted into Taliban forces as a cook's assistant, the report said.

Other evidence cited in the documents as proof of enemy combatant status included possessing AK-47 or Kalashnikov rifles, staying at guest houses while traveling through Afghanistan, possessing a Casio watch or wearing olive drab clothing.

U.S. officials at Guantanamo have repeatedly said that the detainees provide valuable intelligence information and were carefully selected from among more than 8,000 men taken captive during the Afghanistan war. A few dozen of those who underwent the 2004 enemy combatant reviews have since been released. The population has been whittled down to about 490 through diplomatic negotiations and through an annual review process that continues.

Only 10 have been charged with war crimes and Pentagon officials have said only 50 to 75 ever would be charged.
Posted by:Dan Darling

#9  Actually, this is very old news. The authories said as much when Gitmo was opened (or not long thereafter). Part of the reason for the tribunals held there was to determine who belonged there, and who could safely be let go.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-02-10 19:20  

#8  This affects their status how? Many of those released have returned to terrorist activity. The "Human Rights" people and MSM must think we have their attention span.

I have AADD and I have a better grasp of the real struggle than 99.9% of the MSM and a much better concept of "human rights" than most of these communist and socialist front groups.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom   2006-02-10 14:56  

#7  How about smelling flowers through their roots?

That's a good one, sounds like poetry to the Capn.
Posted by: Captain America   2006-02-10 14:32  

#6  It's a lovely image, gromgoru, once one realizes an actual action isn't meant (my first thought was lying amongst the reeds breathing air through anothre reed while the hunters cast about impotently). And not one taught in my Heebrew School classes, even if we did read Amoz Oz in the original.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-02-10 12:35  

#5  One detainee was considered an enemy combatant because he was conscripted into Taliban forces as a cook's assistant, the report said.

So a US army cook's assistant doesn't qualify as a combatant?

Hooboy, they do NOT want to start sawing on the limb they've climbed onto.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2006-02-10 12:30  

#4  I guess "smelling flowers through their roots" sounds better in original Hebrew.
Posted by: gromgoru   2006-02-10 07:50  

#3  The majority of prisoners at the Guantanamo Bay naval base are not accused of committing hostile acts against the United States or its allies, and only a small percentage were captured by U.S. forces, a review of government documents has found.

"The large majority of detainees never participated in any combat against the United States on a battlefield," concluded a report compiled at Seton Hall University's law school, in New Jersey, and given to Reuters on Thursday.


The report analyzed unclassified government summaries [Don't think the classified stuff may have more info that has related details on collection methods?] of evidence the military used in 2004 hearings to decide whether 517 Guantanamo detainees were enemy combatants. One of the authors, Seton Hall law professor Mark Denbeaux, represents two Guantanamo prisoners.


And the Professor was in Afghanistan? When and where. Oh, but he doesn't have to. He's a lawyer. He can make any absurd claims he wants.

Message - this is a war, not a procedural process before a bench in peacetime.
Posted by: Elmains Spomomp5231   2006-02-10 07:14  

#2  LOL grom..pushing up wilted daisys.
Posted by: RD   2006-02-10 06:55  

#1  How about smelling flowers through their roots?
Posted by: gromgoru   2006-02-10 05:30  

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