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| Posted by:Admiral Allan Ackbar |
| #43 There are some advantages to "faith based" initiatives. Rock charity organizer, Bob Geldof (a leftist) found that religious groups are better at getting food aid to the poor on short notice, and he has built influential contacts in the Bush White House. Bush has major differences with other evangelicals - and not just Jimmie Carter - because he has embraced the pan-Abrahamic notion of Judaism-Christianity-Islam, as brother faiths. Franklin Graham, Gerry Vines and Jerry Falwall have no use for that, given the Muslim claims that the other faith's texts are distorted by "satan." Hopefully, Southern Baptists and other evangelicals can convince the President that Muslims are the scum of the earth who deserve to be crushed like bugs. If not,then public opinion might force Bush to pull the switch on Mecca and Medina, as fast as he facilitated the executions of mentally retarded black men when he governed Texas. Daniel Pipes has posted a de-classified 1946 document which contains 1o pages on the dangers of Wahabist Islam. Why doesn't this stuff get to the President? www.danielpipes.org/rr/3370.pdf Muslims are crap; flush them. Charcoal is a bad symbol; make Mecca charcoal. |
| Posted by: Jomble Glavimp6138 2006-02-13 16:36 |
| #42 THE WEST IS JUSTIFIED IN ITS HATRED OF ISLAM Samuel Huntington, the Havard Professor, has revealed the real reason for the Western hatred of Islam. The West thinks arrogantly that its culture is the best in the world and expects all other cultures to bow before it. Rich cultures such as Japanese and Indian do submit to it. For example, the Indians living in the West become Westernised very easily with their women donning first the maxis and then the minis which they never did at home in India. But not so the Muslims, because unlike the Indian, Japanese, Chinese cultures which are traditional, Islamic culture is ordained by Allah and as long as Muslims remain God-Fearing, they will not abandon their culture whatever the west says, especially because they are able to observe that Western culture itself is defective with the soaring rates of divorce, depression, crime, etc. Secondly, the culture with which the Western culture has the widest divergence, is Islam - not Japanese, Chinese or Indian. While the West cannot live without alcohol, Islam hates it. Whereas the west undresses people, Islam dresses them up. While the West considers sex to be fun, Islam considers it to be an intimate relationship reserved only for the spouse. Whereas the West assigns similar roles to the two sexes, Islam assigns them different roles. Whereas relationships are loose in the west, it is strong in Islam. Usury, the foundation of Western economics, is banned outright by Islam. Therefore, the west has no other option but to hate Islam and try to eradicate it from earth. |
| Posted by: Explain This 2006-02-13 16:24 |
| #41 January 25, 2006 "Evangelical Hatred of Islam Influencing America" Many Muslims, both in America and elsewhere in the world, are concerned about the power and influence of evangelical Christians who have a clear and unambiguous hatred for Islam. Even though President Bush says many things about tolerance for Islam and how Islam is a religion of peace, he has long to provided support for those who say the opposite. Hussein Shobokshi wrote in the Arab News a couple of years ago: The problem with this group is not just their ideas and their hate mongering but the fact that they have a following large enough to influence the outcomes in American elections. By virtue of their votes and their fund-raising capabilities they exercise more power over Congress and the president than the sheikhs of Saudi Arabia over the decisions of their king. Furthermore, the close relationship between the president himself and Rev. Franklin Graham and some members of his administration like [former] Attorney-General Ashcroft is extremely disturbing. Is it possible that the very purpose of the Federal initiative to support faith-based programs is to allow these groups to influence their operations with those of the federal government? Their involvement in postwar Iraq further strengthens these notions. Muslims recognize that most Christian groups arenÂ’t a problem because they donÂ’t spread hate and misinformation; those that do, however, have way too much power and influence. Thus, they ask: to what extent will AmericaÂ’s future and American foreign policy be determined by those anti-Islam ideas? They have a right to be concerned, and so should we all. John Ashcroft is no longer with the administration, but that doesnÂ’t mean that things havenÂ’t changed since Shobokshi wrote his article. If anything, the push for faith-based initiatives and the funding of religious organizations has only increased. Extremist rhetoric from religious conservatives like Pat Robertson proceeds without interruption and we hear nothing from Bush. |
| Posted by: Explain This 2006-02-13 16:18 |
| #40 Aww come on, don't be churlish. 4 000 is nearly 100 000. Especially in a world where the total number of muslims seems to vary anywhere from 1.2 billion to 1.8 billion. |
| Posted by: Quatermass 2006-02-13 20:40 |
| #39 No, the West doesn't hate Islam as such; we invented freedom of thought and speech so we could turn our energies toward productive endeavor, and away from enforcing our ideas on our neighbors. Rather, the West refuses to countenance those who by violence impose the rules they have chosen to live by on others. Precisely, Explain This TROLL, that means you go ahead and keep your women covered and imprisoned at home, but don't you dare try to make my husband do the same to me. He doesn't want your help figuring out what God wants him to do. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2006-02-13 18:00 |
| #38 [Moderator Hat: On] I would like to again encourage our contributors to consider their words carefully; Rantburg does not advocate genocidal extremes in any circumstances. Thank you and please, no whining about this policy. We are all adults here. Just think before you post. [Moderator Hat: Off] |
| Posted by: Seafarious 2006-02-13 16:45 |
| #37 Many Muslims, both in America and elsewhere in the world, are concerned about the power and influence of evangelical Christians who have a clear and unambiguous hatred for Islam. - Check sinktrap for the above comments - I'd wager it's really because Christians have a clear and unambiguous hatred for |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-02-13 16:38 |
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| Posted by: Jomble Glavimp6138 2006-02-13 16:36 |
| #35 "Home made placards were banned." By whom and why? Typographers Guild and the Legion of Decent Readability. |
| Posted by: 6 2006-02-13 16:08 |
| #34 NoWay JG we do it only for the (here it comes) Jooooooooooooos! |
| Posted by: 6 2006-02-13 16:07 |
| #33 "Home made placards were banned." By whom and why? |
| Posted by: Darrell 2006-02-13 15:22 |
| #32 Rantburgers: The bulk of US foreign aid and military operations are given and conducted on behalf of Muslims. Most of those we aid, share the values of the London protesters. Point the finger. |
| Posted by: Jomble Glavimp6138 2006-02-13 14:48 |
| #31 They turn out to order you not to be Islamophobes, not to fear - Just Submit! to their BS because they use more blues than green on the banners - advised by LLL like Ken Livingstone and his ilks. |
| Posted by: Duh! 2006-02-13 13:55 |
| #30 3dc, maybe someone handing out free ham sandwiches? |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2006-02-13 12:36 |
| #29 Sounds like they need some street vendors with ribs and rub. |
| Posted by: 3dc 2006-02-13 11:46 |
| #28 To learn/know how upset these folks get with simple cartoons and pork, make them an easy target. Time for a pig roast with cartoon napkins on every street corner. Hmmm, maybe some balloons with cartoons on them too? Lighten up guys! The small numbers at this rally remind me of the poor turn out for Cindy Sheehan. Wish I could find that picture, but loved it all the same. |
| Posted by: Jan 2006-02-13 11:21 |
| #27 'Piss-Koran' lealets.... See if anyone at the BBC makes the connection.... My bet is that they don't.... |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2006-02-13 11:12 |
| #26 They warned they would not accept insults being levelled at the Prophet Muhammad. In other words, SSDD, no progress made. They're still skinless people in a sandpaper world. People will make fun of Mohammed and cartoonists will draw derogatory and hilarious panels about just what moronic f&ckwits Muslims are until they regain some sort of balanced sense of humor. At some point in each of our lives, I think we've all run into someone who was utterly humorless. And I also think we all know just how abso-f&cking-lutely useless such twits are. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-02-13 11:08 |
| #25 I find Islam "deeply offensive", myself. Oh my, what to do, what to do? Burn down a mosque? |
| Posted by: mmurray821 2006-02-13 11:01 |
| #24 They gather and they wonder and give worship to Mahound. And he saith, "Break up the mountains where the hermit-folk can hide, And sift the red and silver sands lest bone of saint abide, And chase the Giaours flying night and day, not giving rest, For that which was our trouble comes again out of the west.... |
| Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar 2006-02-13 10:51 |
| #23 LOL. I love the smell of surrealism in the morning... it's 7:16 AM here, lol... |
| Posted by: .com 2006-02-13 10:12 |
| #22 The Muslim Action Committee said there would be 100,000: |
| Posted by: Colt 2006-02-13 10:11 |
| #21 Tolerance aint good enough, I'm afraid, SF, It's SENSITIVITY we're after. (That should be Kumballah, BTW) |
| Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar 2006-02-13 10:09 |
| #20 Now *that's* tolerance! Kumbaya m'lord, kumbaya! |
| Posted by: Seafarious 2006-02-13 10:06 |
| #19 Surely you're not suggesting that we restrict their freedom to oppose freedom of speech. I would be dead against that. Oh, hang on - then I would be against your freedom to oppose their freedom to oppose our freedom, wouldnt I? I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to strap semtex under a burka and take out a bus full of schoolkids to prove your point. |
| Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar 2006-02-13 10:04 |
| #18 AAA - No problem, bro... As for the other al Beeb article, there's nothing moderate about 'em, is there - they're actually demanding that (now) familiar slow-motion institution of Shari'a thingy... I find Islam "deeply offensive", myself. Oh my, what to do, what to do? ;-) |
| Posted by: .com 2006-02-13 09:56 |
| #17 I dream of a day when people of all creeds and colours will link arms and peacefully march in the name of freedom through the streets of London with banners proclaiming 'Muhammad is a Nonce'. |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2006-02-13 09:54 |
| #16 Duh, sorry .com - my mistake. I thought it said "Yesterdays news today" |
| Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar 2006-02-13 09:52 |
| #15 Here is the main event. Must have just been a warm up. DEFINATELY be at LEAST 20-50,000 people this time acc al-Beeb. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4694090.stm Free Born Children Of Albion: Date for your diaries, please. 18th Feb everybody. Serrano filled party poppers at the ready. Their voices were even and low, their eyes were level and straight... |
| Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar 2006-02-13 09:50 |
| #14 AAA - that article ran yesterday here, heh. We be on top o' things, heh. |
| Posted by: .com 2006-02-13 09:49 |
| #13 A great piece by the Daily about the so called moderates/quiescents/sleepers |
| Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar 2006-02-13 09:42 |
| #12 Am just highlighting the point that our media and education institutes are rife with weak minded , cowardly swine . Thrilled to bits having to watch younger generations get their minds warped by some twisted fucktard , excuse my foul language |
| Posted by: MacNails 2006-02-13 09:41 |
| #11 guys we gotta club together hire a private plane and hang a big old banner off the back of it saying 'muhammed was a nonce!'whilst leaflet dropping cartoons mocking allan |
| Posted by: Glavins Glereting2921 2006-02-13 09:35 |
| #10 I'll be rushing out to see that then... LOL! AAA - take care - remember to use raw bacon if they get too close. I too am a Londoner but tend to espouse the unexpected visit in the middle of the night as a strategy for keeping em on the run. Personally, I've never tried to reason with these assclowns - handing out a few cartoons could be a laugh though... |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2006-02-13 09:27 |
| #9 *sigh* new film coming out what a load of rubbish filmed in Pak , Iran and Afghanistan |
| Posted by: MacNails 2006-02-13 09:18 |
| #8 40,000? *cough*bullshit*cough* If there had been anything like 40,000 it would've been a featured bit, shouted from the rooftops, methinks. Not buying it - even though they still played the Victimology 101 card for ass-coverage. |
| Posted by: .com 2006-02-13 09:16 |
| #7 My mate got some photos, in case anybody is really |
| Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar 2006-02-13 09:15 |
| #6 One bit of info I did catch was that they are planning a repeat demo next weekend (either in Trafalgar Sq or Hyde Park or both) Anyone who has heard of "Speakers Corner" will know the significance of Hyde Park to the foundations of free speech in this country. I am a bit of a specialist at the art of "Muzzy Baiting" at speakers corner, having wasted some of my time memorizing segments of their Holey Scriptures (TM) Anyone else wanna come? |
| Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar 2006-02-13 09:09 |
| #5 I don't think any respectable muslim would be caught dead at a demonstration expousing moderation, peace or any kind of shit like that. |
| Posted by: bigjim-ky 2006-02-13 09:08 |
| #4 I bombed it down there as quick as I could after hearing about it on the radio, but it was all finished when I got there. A mate of mine who did make it said that the frothy-seethers kept calling "40,000 people" over the PA system. I think I heard this figure on the radio |
| Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar 2006-02-13 09:05 |
| #3 They warned they would not accept insults being levelled at the Prophet Muhammad. They're still fascists and they can still get the fuck out.. |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2006-02-13 09:05 |
| #2 Heh, good catch, Darrell. To not mention it means it was seriously embarrassing - even to the Beeb, and that's pretty damned hard to do. |
| Posted by: .com 2006-02-13 08:50 |
| #1 "The turn out did not match the expectations of some organisers, who anticipated a meeting of tens of thousands of people." An estimate would have been a nice journalistic touch. Thousands, hundreds, tens? |
| Posted by: Darrell 2006-02-13 08:38 |