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Saudis, with Pakistani help, working on nuclear programme
2006-03-29
Saudi Arabia is working secretly on a nuclear programme, with help from Pakistani experts, a German magazine reports in its latest edition, citing Western security sources. The German magazine Cicero says that during the Hajj pilgrimages to Mecca in 2003 through 2005, Pakistani scientists posed as pilgrims to come to Saudi Arabia in aircraft laid on by the oil-rich kingdom. Between October 2004 and January 2005, some of them took the opportunity to "disappear" from their hotel rooms, sometimes for up to three weeks, it quoted German security expert Udo Ulfkotte as saying.

According to Western security services, the magazine added, Saudi scientists have been working since the mid-1990s in Pakistan, a nuclear power since 1998 thanks to the work of the now-disgraced Pakistani scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan. Cicero, which will appear on newstands on Thursday, also quoted a US military analyst, John Pike, as saying that Saudi bar codes can be found on half of Pakistan's nuclear weapons "because it is Saudi Arabia which ultimately co-financed the Pakistani atomic nuclear programme". The magazine also said satellite images prove that Saudi Arabia has set up in Al-Sulaiyil, south of Riyadh, a secret underground city and dozens of underground silos for missiles. According to some Western security services, long-range Ghauri-type missiles of Pakistani-origin are housed inside the silos.
Not a new story, by any means. The Soddies realize they'll be up the creek if they're caught at it, which of course doesn't mean they're not doing it. I also wonder how much of Iran's program is in response to the unadmitted Soddy program. Whatever the actual story, it's another incidence of Soddy money buying Pak muscle (in this case nuclear muscle) to subvert the rest of us, since they're long on supervisors and short on actual muscle of their own.
Posted by:john

#13  One more reason to smack Iran really hard: as an example. Saudi Arabia is a signatory to the NPT.
Posted by: Darrell   2006-03-29 20:13  

#12  At this point I am inclined to say we just announce something along the following:

"Dear World, the USA has decided to become the Evil Imperialist Colonialist nation we are accused of everyday. For the next year we will take your accusations as Doctrine and implement them. Consider yourselves warned"

Then, we go to town ... I am not really kidding either. They'll be begging for the old US after the year. Then we tell them, we could become Evil again at anytime. Behave Children!
Posted by: bombay   2006-03-29 20:05  

#11  No need to break the oil infrastructure, or even endanger it. One nuke, about 5Mt,on Riyadh would take care of all of it. Without the House of Saud and the infrastructure they've created to maintain their control, Saudi Arabia becomes a series of crumbs to be swept up by a few special forces. This is for ALL the marbles, boys and girls, and half-steps will only get more people killed and the world even more screwed up than it already is.

As for Europe objecting, the US would have control of the Persian Gulf and its oil. We could tighten control to the point Europe freezes in the winter, or dies from the heat in the summer, with NO viable economy, no tourism, and no prospects of imroving.

It's time to either fish or cut bait, and I'm not holding my breath for Europe to get a clue.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2006-03-29 15:27  

#10  I don't think anyone's talking about an overall dismantling of foreign oil exportation. My mention of "breaking things for the bad boys" involves the Iranian nuclear sites. Should Iran continue to resist once those locations are demolished, then we can talk about crippling Kharg Island.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-03-29 14:45  

#9  If the oil producing countries we don't like (which is justifiably almost all of them) were to be suddenly broken, the world economy would equally suddenly go into a major depression. Most of the nations of the world are even more dependent on imported oil than is the US. That sounds like a really good way to lose the Long War on expansionist Islam to me, however satisfying emotionally.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-03-29 13:57  

#8  More reasons why we need our fellow American patriots, union members who blindly vote democrat to join us. Also, more reason to attack and destroy the MSM before they sell us out totally.
Those 2 groups of jerks think it's a struggle to place the next president, while we know it's a struggle for survival of civility.
Posted by: wxjames   2006-03-29 13:24  

#7  pagan infidel, the prospects are pretty d@mn grim. Neither side quite seems to get it about simply breaking things for the bad boys, with the democrats being the most rudderless of the lot.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-03-29 12:49  

#6  Is there any chance whatsoever that there will be a viable presidential candidate in 2008 who would put an end to our obscene alliance with Saudi Arabia? One who understands that the enemy is not a "handful of extremists" but rather the mainstream Islamic establishment? One who would use our military power not to "build democracy" and improve the economic conditions of those who want to destroy us, but rather to weaken our ememies? One who understands that we cannot "make countries," but that we we can certainly break them to our advantage (that we could, in other words, break off the Persian Gulf Coast from Saudi Arabia, break off oil-rich Khuzistan from Iran, break Darfur and the far south off from Sudan, and so on).

Such a candidate would get my vote. But I suspect that we will have another "left-wing fascist" (a quasi-socialist friend of Islamism) versus another "right-wing liberal" (a semi-aggressive Wilsonian 'democracy builder' like Bush).
Posted by: pagan infidel   2006-03-29 12:21  

#5  Consider this a formal announcement of my unanimous support for .com's plan to confiscate that narrow strip of (oil rich) land from the Saudis. Let's all just call it reparations for 9-11 and get it over with.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-03-29 11:58  

#4  Wonderful. Just wonderful.
Posted by: newc   2006-03-29 07:54  

#3  What AP said. (Which is what we been saying all along too.)
Posted by: SPoD   2006-03-29 03:51  

#2  We have to dry up the money. The West, as well as Japan and others are giving their hard earned cash to a bunch of ME psychos, and have it turned into Mosques and Nukes. Saudi Arabia and Iran: the source of the misery, terrorism, and World War. We need a plan to deal with the enemy and they is them. That's what it all boils down to. Them or us. Everything else is symptoms or a sideshow.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2006-03-29 02:12  

#1  Saudis have ChiCom balistic missiles with something dangerous on top.
What?
Posted by: 3dc   2006-03-29 00:32  

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