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| Right-winger (Philippe De Villiers) denounces 'Islamisation of France' |
| 2006-04-24 |
| De Villiers is so far the only french pol I'd deem as "esteemable" and I'll probably vote for him, assuming I vote. Still, I don't know how he will fare in the presidential election... probably 5-6%... oh, well. Btw, he's not right wing in the Le Pen sense, he's a conservative catholic noble, a "sovereignty" EU-skeptic, the son of a deported resistance WWII hero (unlike many french pols who're sons of collaborationnists, Hubert Védrine, Lionel Jospin,...) who's very well managed his region in a relatively free-market way; also, he might be the most popular french pols among french jews, and if I base my judgement on how he's being now diabolized ("to the right of Le Pen", very aggressive interviews,...), he's a real embarassment to the establishment with his denunciation of the rapid islamization of France... He's sincere on that, too, I'd say. Of course, the Lepenists say he's an undercover agent of the establishment, meant to torpedo Le Pen. Only bad thing about him is he has some dead weights in his entourage, including Paul Marie Coutaux, the guy who wish arabs had the A bomb to counterbalance Israel and the anglosaxons, and he's an enarch (but he has a sense of humor, not a common combination)... TOM HENEGHAN IN PARIS A FAR-right French politician launched his 2007 presidential campaign yesterday by claiming Paris's Charles de Gaulle airport was endangered by Islamist radicals who, he said, had infiltrated the ground staff. Philippe de Villiers, head of the anti-immigrant Movement for France (MPF) party, also declared Islam incompatible with France's secular values and denounced what he called the Islamisation of the country. Mr Villiers has stirred up controversy in recent weeks with increasingly tough statements about Muslims, which critics call racist and officials describe as exaggerated. France's five million Muslims make up the largest such minority in Europe. "I am the only politician who tells the French the truth about the Islamisation of France," he said in a radio interview, kicking off his campaign. On Thursday, he plans to publish a book, entitled The Mosques of Roissy, detailing his charges about radicals at the airport. His main rival on the far-right, the National Front leader Jean-Marie Le Pen, has also stepped up his preparations for the 2007 vote. The daily Le Parisien, in an extensive report yesterday on Mr Villiers's charges about Islamist radicals at the airport, quoted officials saying that the problem was minimal and suspicious workers were kept under surveillance. The interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, and the justice minister, Dominique Perben, toured the airport on Thursday and said that only 122 of about 83,000 ground staff were being watched. "There aren't 122, there are hundreds," said Mr Villiers, quoting what he said were secret police reports, which he used as the basis for his book. He challenged Mr Sarkozy to publish them. According to a survey to be published by Le Parisien today, Mr Villiers trails the veteran far-right leader Mr Le Pen, with 4 per cent support against his rival's 14 per cent. Mr Villiers said Islam was incompatible with the country's democratic system because he said it demanded loyalty to the ummah (world Muslim community) over individual states, wanted to impose sharia Islamic law, and promoted jihad, or holy war. "I think there are moderate Muslims, they are even the large majority, but I do not believe there is a moderate Islam," he said. "I do not think Islam is compatible with the French republic." Saying France had to fight what he called Islamisation, he said Paris should stop mosque construction, impose a citizen's charter demanding the strict separation of religion and state, freedom to change religions and demand respect for the equality of men and women. It should also expel any persons threatening the security of the French population. Asked for a comment on Mr Villiers's book, the head of the French Muslim Council, Dalil Boubakeur, told the weekly Le Point: "I don't share his vision of French Islam at all." So, RBers, what do you think of his views on the ROP? |
| Posted by:anonymous5089 |
| #8 to me, it's more than allowing the free practice of islam. we do that in the US and we're not islamicized. islamization is more about the culture moving in a more islamic direction. When prisons and schools cut out whole categories of food, when dress codes are completely redone, when language, music, day to day activities, etc become infused with muslim influences, when other groups are offended because of society's contortions NOT to offend islam - THAT'S islamization. And that's exactly what's happening in europe. It's not happening in the US? I guess I only imagined the blacked out bits in South Park, or the odd gaps in news coverage. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2006-04-24 17:50 |
| #7 TW, Reading his site, even with my rusty French, Villiers is not a monarchist (at least not openly). He is a euroskeptic, to the point that he introduced the "polish plumber" meme into european discourse, apparently. |
| Posted by: liberalhawk 2006-04-24 16:50 |
| #6 Since you ask - I think his views of Islam (which I do not call the religion of peace, it is a diverse religion) are incorrect. But then most here would not be surprised. If French Jews prefer this man over Sarkozy Id be surprised indeed. |
| Posted by: liberalhawk 2006-04-24 16:45 |
| #5 It's good that the gentleman is saying things that need to be said. Just like yesterday's article about that Dutch report on Islam that caused such consternation over there, it's important that Europeans insist on actually thinking about the risks of the maintaining the current direction. As a result of the the rioting youths and Cartoonifada, Europeans are starting to awaken from their sleep -- and we pray they turn that into real action. However, Monsieur Philippe De Villiers is a European conservative, which I understand to be a Monarchist, or at least one who wishes to restore rule by the aristocratics and the Catholic church. If he is read that way by the masses of Frenchmen, steeped in the pleasures of Marxist rhetoric and awareness of the several French Revolutions, he will not get a significant number of votes, no matter how much the peepul agree with his sentiments on the subject of the Muslim Conquest. JFM, a5089, could you be so kind as to expand a bit on Mr De Villiers other ideas for governing France? Thank you. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2006-04-24 13:50 |
| #4 Don't forget Muslim History |
| Posted by: 6 2006-04-24 13:48 |
| #3 define terms. islamization. to me, it's more than allowing the free practice of islam. we do that in the US and we're not islamicized. islamization is more about the culture moving in a more islamic direction. When prisons and schools cut out whole categories of food, when dress codes are completely redone, when language, music, day to day activities, etc become infused with muslim influences, when other groups are offended because of society's contortions NOT to offend islam - THAT'S islamization. And that's exactly what's happening in europe. |
| Posted by: PlanetDan 2006-04-24 13:32 |
| #2 Well, mosques are sprouting all over the place, including a giant one at Poitiers, where the moors were stopped by Charles Martel, I think you can see the importance of the symbol,... often on public ground being leased or sold for a symbolic euro by the mayor (plenty of voting opportunities here), and with illegal subsidies from the State (trick is to let it fund the "cultural" part of the mosque)... all this while churches are left to decay and to be pillaged by art thieves. IIRC, France has now more mosque per mulim capita than Morocco. Yet, more are erected every week. That, and his simple, basic, affirmation that french law must prevail over multiculturalism and islamic values (did you know that the french authorities, led by left wing interior minister Chevènement, caved on the right to change religion back?), gets him my vote. Of course, in the long run, this doesn't change a thing to the grand shift. I repeat, he's dubbed as a "right winger" and an extremist, but he's still a run-of-the-mill pol, operating in the cadre of legality. He's proposing legal solution to an unsolvable problem. It's not like he's going to announce ethnic cleasing or something. And short of that, we're screwed. So, things will get worse, until the tipping point. It won't even have to be violent. Wer're screwed. |
| Posted by: anonymous5089 2006-04-24 13:05 |
| #1 Stopping Islamization by banning mosque construction. Great idea, they should've thought of that -- stopping a German invasion by banning beer, a Russian invasion by banning Vodka, and an American (tourist) invasion by banning McDonald's. |
| Posted by: Perfesser 2006-04-24 12:42 |