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India-Pakistan
Pakistan calls for fencing, mining of Afghan border
2006-05-03
Pakistan on Tuesday asked Afghanistan and coalition forces to fence and mine their side of the border with Pakistan to prevent cross-border movement.
Good idea. And dig a moat. And fill it with alligators. No, make that crocodiles.
Foreign Minister Khurshid Mahmood Kasuri and his Dutch counterpart Bernard R Bot met in Islamabad and signed a memorandum of understanding on bilateral consultations. Later, addressing a joint news conference, Kasuri said Pakistan had deployed 80,000 troops on its border with Afghanistan, more than those of the US, NATO and Afghan National Army.
Though not nearly as effective...
He said that Pakistan had already proposed fencing of the border and now "we are asking the authorities on the other side to mine and fence their area while Pakistan is prepared to do so on its side".
And caltrops. I think they need caltrops, too...
The Dutch minister said his country would deploy up to 1,600 troops in Afghanistan and his visit was aimed at seeking Pakistan's cooperation in improving security conditions for them in the war-torn country. He said the aim of Dutch troops in Afghanistan was to provide stability and security.
Posted by:Fred

#6  the answer is withering fire, mines, and tracking down for the successful to amountain grave. Cluster bombs are in season as well. This would work in Pakistan as well...
Posted by: Frank G   2006-05-03 22:18  

#5  I've not had to deal with concertina wire, but Of course I've seen it.
Seems to me that the best way to deal with it and still have rapid movement is a few sheets of plywood on the front of a large truck.
Think "Bailey Bridge" here, you run up to the fence, nose into the wire and the plywood is designed to flatten the fence and remain behind for the truck to roll over.
Slow as you reach the fence, low gear to flatten it, roll along,
Total elapsed time about 30 seconds.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2006-05-03 21:39  

#4  Sound like a wonderful idea for the US border.
Too damaging to the environment. Not only can people not move through concertina wire, but neither can animals, and we have a lot of migratory animals going back and forth across the border. Better to build a chain-link fence with tension devices imbedded, and regular, guarded openings for wildlife. Wildlife will learn to use the guarded openings. People may be a bit harder to train.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2006-05-03 14:24  

#3  Sound like a wonderful idea for the US border.
Posted by: ed   2006-05-03 11:33  

#2  A while back, I proposed a simpler solution. Fast, cheap and effective, to string concertina wire five rolls or better thick along their border.

Speaking from experience, I can tell you that the stuff is nightmarish in preventing movement. While it will not stop a concerted effort, that effort takes a LOT of time. So light patrols and observation can cover far more area.

Cutting through five strands with serious bolt cutters takes several men working together and a lot of cuts. You also cannot put the wire back together to make it look whole again, so later you know where they passed, and that is the pass you re-wire and watch.

The Afghan-Pakistan border is an excellent case of a marauder crossing. The marauders rely on speed in crossing the border to get in quick, raid, and get out quicker. If you can just slow them down, they are dead.

Using concertina, you can still use apers mines, but if done intelligently, you can use a lot fewer mines, with higher probability that the mines will take out bad boyz.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2006-05-03 10:15  

#1  Pakistan calls for fencing, mining of Afghan border

How about deploying Indian Special Forces along the Pak-Afghanistan border.

or How To spin Pak turbans at Mach™ numbers.
Posted by: RD   2006-05-03 05:31  

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