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| Some excerpts from Ahmadinejad's love letter |
| 2006-05-09 |
| Iran's president declared in a letter to President Bush that liberalism and democracy had failed, and criticized the United States over a host of issues ranging from the invasion of Iraq to its support for Israel. The letter from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was the first formal communication between leaders of the two nations in 27 years. It made only an oblique reference to Iran's intentions concerning its disputed nuclear program, asking why "any technological and scientific achievement reached in the Middle East region is translated into and portrayed as a threat to the Zionist regime." Otherwise, the letter lambasted Bush for his handling of the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States, accused the media of spreading lies about the Iraq war, and said that people around the world are moving closer to faith in God. "Liberalism and western style democracy have not been able to help realize the ideals of humanity," said the letter, obtained by The Associated Press. "Today these two concepts have failed. Those with insight can already hear the sounds of the shattering and fall of the ideology and thoughts of the Liberal democratic systems." Even though the letter hardly touched on nuclear issues, officials said it appeared timed with a push by the United States and its European allies for a U.N. Security Council vote to restrain Tehran's nuclear ambitions. Both China and Russia are opposed to leveling sanctions against Iran and the letter could provide them support. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice dismissed the letter Monday and said it failed to resolve the dispute over the Iranian nuclear program _ the focus of intense Security Council debate this week. "This letter is not the place that one would find an opening to engage on the nuclear issue or anything of the sort," Rice said in an interview with The Associated Press. "It isn't addressing the issues that we're dealing with in a concrete way." In the letter, Ahmadinejad instead criticizes the United States for the invasion of Iraq and its support of Israel. It says that people around the world have lost faith in international institutions and questions whether the Bush administration has covered up some evidence surrounding the Sept. 11 attacks. Ahmadinejad also suggests that Bush should look inward, saying there was an increasing hatred worldwide of the United States, and that history shows how "repressive and cruel governments do not survive." "How much longer will the blood of the innocent men, women and children be spilled on the streets, and people's houses destroyed over their heads? Are you pleased with the current condition of the world? Do you think present policies can continue?" |
| Posted by:Dan Darling |
| #13 Cavuto on FNC this AM had a bullet list of MadMoud's main premises - iff my memory is correct, Cavuto's bullet points, or most of them, were: (1)Liberal and Western Democracy is a failure, (2) God-based Government is the future for the world , (3) ISRAEL has no right to exist, andor why is the USA helping Israel to exist, and (4) The WOT/WAR IN IRAQ is based on lies. MadMoud also alleged that the USA is weak and cannot survive, and that America must either accept Islam or be destroyed, or words to that effect. Substitute GLOBAL SECULAR SOCIALISM in place of Radical Islam or GOD/FAITH-BASED SOCILAISM and basically MadMoud's premises is no different than for the Leftism-Socialism-based anti-American and Globalist-OWG agendists, OR AT LEAST PRAVDA. *Secular Socialists parallels: (1) Always, (2) Substitute STATE-CONTROLLED/REGULATED/TAXED CHURCHES AND RELIGIOUS ORGS, or [Islam-style] SECULAR ULTRA-CONSERVATISM-TRADITIONALISM-TOTALITARIANISM, (3) Israel > surname also for USA/NATO/West, and (4)Substitute America & Americanism] + Western Democracy [includ Western Demo/LeftSocialism] + Capitalism + Materialism. Pragmatically, any and all wars fought by the USA-West against the USSR-Commie Bloc has been criticized by the Left and Commies as based on alleged Western-Capitalist lies. MAD MOUD = NORTH KOREA BEATING THE EMOTION-HEAVY RANTS AND DRUMS OF WAR, SECULARIST AND SOCIALISTS = CHINA'S PLAAF AND PLAN DOING THE BUZZIN' AND PENETRATIN' OF JAPANESE AIR-AND SEA-SPACE [Japan = Western Demo Govt, Institutions, and Values]. |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2006-05-09 22:08 |
| #12 Sorry, I didn't mean to intrude. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2006-05-09 19:56 |
| #11 Damn NS, your deep into my territory. But say lava sez I. |
| Posted by: 6 2006-05-09 19:22 |
| #10 The Wall Street Journal has the original memo from Amaddinnerjacket. Look at the font. It is the same typewriter that was used by the Texas Air National Guard to type Bush's efficiency reports. Note that the th's are not superscripted, because that cannot be done without a word processor. Seventh century philosophy from nineteenth century technology. Another coincidence? I think not. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2006-05-09 18:41 |
| #9 Imagine, if you will, sleeves rolled up, Howand Dean giving this speech as the keynote at the 2008 donk convention. Really not to hard to imagine, is it. Coincidence? Not when you're a donk in the Twilight Zone. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2006-05-09 18:25 |
| #8 Very interesting mix of Western lefty talking points into his worldview. So... when will the democrats nominate Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for president? |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2006-05-09 17:16 |
| #7 '"Among Gulf nations, the letter fueled suspicions toward Iran. The Saudi-owned daily Asharq Al-Awsat called the letter proof that "Iran is not enriching uranium for peaceful purposes as it says, and is striving for leadership and control of the region." Such Iranian leadership would mean the Israeli-Palestinian peace process "would be stalled, the Iraqi dream (of democracy) would be thwarted and we would witness a new wave of armament," wrote Tariq Alhomayed, the paper's editor-in-chief. The Kuwaiti newspaper Arab Times ran an editorial in which editor-in-chief Ahmed Al-Jarallah accused Ahmadinejad of acting "as if he owns the region." ' |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2006-05-09 16:32 |
| #6 Here is supposedly the text of the letter translated into English. Very interesting mix of Western lefty talking points into his worldview. A case can be made for us to take him up on his stated desire for engagement, send an ambassador to Iran and then -- instead of waltzing with the dictator a la Albright in Pyongyang -- speak directly to the Iranian people addressing point by point the flaws in Amadinejad's reasoning as a starting point in proclaiming US support for reformers. I am not advocating this necessarily, but a dramatic appeal to the Iranian people is at least feasible because they do have good access to non-state-controlled media there. At the end of the day, I remain pessimistic that enough of the Iranians will be willing to risk their lives overthrowing a regime where the police and prisons are the only effective government functions and the president has been using his limited influence to purge military and other institutions to them to make them more ideologically pure just in case things get dicey for the regime. |
| Posted by: JAB 2006-05-09 13:32 |
| #5 I'd like to hear his perception of "the ideals of humanity". I'd bet they'd be...fascinating. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2006-05-09 13:11 |
| #4 ...and questions whether the Bush administration has covered up some evidence surrounding the Sept. 11 attacks. Oh, and when did you stop beating your wife? |
| Posted by: Xbalanke 2006-05-09 12:53 |
| #3 It's a good idea, LH, except I have a feeling those same places will focus instead on this one: "there was an increasing hatred worldwide of the United States". That seems to be the storyline in the "international community"-that we 'have it coming'. Gotta love the line about "repressive and cruel governments" crumbling, though. Iran-know thyself. |
| Posted by: Clavish Ulack8745 2006-05-09 09:41 |
| #2 Lots of folks in all of those cities would agree with those words... Fools. |
| Posted by: Seafarious 2006-05-09 09:41 |
| #1 "Liberalism and western style democracy have not been able to help realize the ideals of humanity," said the letter, obtained by The Associated Press. "Today these two concepts have failed. Those with insight can already hear the sounds of the shattering and fall of the ideology and thoughts of the Liberal democratic systems." Keep digging, Mahmoud. This should be put on flyers and distributed in London and Paris, in Frankfurt and Turin, in San Fran and Boston, in Tokyo and Sidney, in Delhi and Toronto. |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2006-05-09 09:34 |