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Home Front: Politix

NYC plot highlights issues between NYC police, local Muslims

2006-05-27

It was a dark and stormy night...

It is no secret to the Muslim immigrants of Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, that spies live among them.

Special Agenct Starchedshirt adjusted his binoculars as he ogled the nubile young Pakistani maiden from his hidden vantage point in the bushes opposite her sparsely appointed bathroom...

Almost anyone can rattle off what they regard as the telltale signs of police informers: They like to talk politics. They have plenty of free time. They live in the neighborhood, but have no local relatives. "They think we don't know, but we know who they are," said Linda Sarsour, 26, a community activist.

"We have our own ways of gaining precious information on their nefarious plots against innocent Muslims," she said, carefully adjusting her burka. "Young men who would gladly sacrifice themselves for a single glance from my sultry eyes are infiltrating the FBI and the NYPD, even as we speak! Victory will soon be ours!"

It is another thing for them to be officially revealed. Over the last several weeks, during the trial of a Pakistani immigrant who was convicted on Wednesday of plotting to blow up the Herald Square subway station, Muslims in Bay Ridge learned that two agents of the police had been planted in the neighborhood and were instrumental to the case.

Drawing his cloak more tightly around his skinny shoulders, the informant skulked down the alley, toward the House of Mahmoud. The poisoned dagger at his waist was ready to use at a moment's notice...

Posted by:Dan Darling

#17 Lets hear it for NYPD.

Posted by: gromgoru 2006-05-27 21:17

#16 Article: "It's like a police state here," said Omar Maged, 34, an assistant teacher at a public high school. "We do not feel that we are living in the most free country in the world."

This guy doesn't seem to understand what a police state is. In a police state, people who say the wrong things disappear and are never heard of again. Ever. Because they are lying in unmarked graves.

My feeling is that this guy misses the freedom he had to talk about killing Americans back in his home country. Back there, talking about killing Americans would have been fine, whereas talking about killing his home country's leader would probably have led to his disappearance. But he figures he was free back home because he could plot his murderous anti-American fantasies in peace. I doubt he'll ever return home, though - the living is usually better here, unless he has inherited wealth.

Posted by: Zhang Fei 2006-05-27 17:07

#15 Good to see the Times right out front with their priorities. Preventing possible terrorist attacks vs. offending Muslims? Which way you wanna go, Pinchy?

Posted by: tu3031 2006-05-27 12:24

#14 Muzzies are a cancer growing within. They have no intention of joining in the American society and community. They only intend to over throw it. If they think they have it bad now, when the next outrage occurs here, they are going to be rounded up and incarcerated. Camps are being built now. But that's only if they're lucky that the feds get to them before the general public.

Posted by: SOP35/Rat 2006-05-27 12:17

#13 I realise I am painting with a broad brush here, but I have to ask: Their co-religionists are plotting to blow up the neighborhood and these guys are whining about being spied upon. Are muslims as a group stupider than other people?

Or maybe this is just a difference between Islamists and, say, Methodists. If there was a group in my church planning to blow up a bus station, I would be ratting them out to the cops myself. Maybe it is simply a question of where your loyalties lie.

Posted by: SteveS 2006-05-27 12:16

#12 And the Blind Sheik and his ilk from NJ. The outrage and seething never end.

Posted by: mrp 2006-05-27 12:15

#11 Fifth Column Upset at Being Revealed

Posted by: Frank G 2006-05-27 11:43

#10 How about this as a headline: "NY police informers make local Muslims reluctant to talk jihad"

Posted by: Slaviger Angomong7708 2006-05-27 10:58

#9 "It's like a police state here," said Omar Maged, 34, an assistant teacher at a public high school. "We do not feel that we are living in the most free country in the world."

That's great...and this one is in the school system. Not one word against the muslim brother who plotted the mass murder of New Yorkers...the more they talk, the more they reveal.

Posted by: milford421 2006-05-27 09:54

#8 Think of it as the natural application of the "Good Samaritan" laws applied to the WoT. Moussaoui is in SuperMax for precisely this reason.

Posted by: Throluting Glosing5293 2006-05-27 09:21

#7 How about, "If you don't help us, you will die."?

Posted by: Throluting Glosing5293 2006-05-27 09:18

#6 This is nothing compared to what would happen to their islamic asses if they DID blow up a subway, a school and a mall. Either get the radical element out of your communities or we will do it for you, and if you help them, you will die.

Posted by: DarthVader 2006-05-27 09:05

#5 "This is a real setback to the bridge building,"

In more ways than one - if you don't succeed in blowing up the bridges (or tunnels) you don't need to build new ones.

Posted by: Glenmore 2006-05-27 08:34

#4 First off I know no one outside of law enforcement that feels comfortable with them 100% of the time or trusts them 100% of the time. Thats reality. If these folks are bummed out about it then it's time to grow up and realise that is the way it is. This tension there for everyone. As Italians, Mexicans, your favorite ethnic group, and plain old "americans" will tell you if they are honest. If you find it's different you are living in a dream world or you are too wealthy for it to matter. The NYT sure as heck knows that fact but they have to make it some kind of sob story about "lost trust" to further their own transnational Socialist agendas and seditious bull crap.

I bet it's much worse in the places these muslims originate from if they were unlucky enough not to be born in the US of A. If they can't understand that they are required by living here to place the security or their fellow citizens above their family. religion and tribal groupings they should start saving for a return trip home or imigrating on to some place else. After all the lawful police power being used also protects them and their familes as well as the rest of us.

I am petty sure that some of them due to their religious beliefs would be better off returing to the place they originated from or immigrating on to someplace they will feel more at ease. That is if they can find one willing to accept them. We would also be better off if they did. Since that is a fact we will need to keep tabs on them and keep conducting lawful investigations for the well being and security of our nation and society.

No Islamophobic or racist agendas, it's just rational thinking by the people paid to protect us for once.

Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-05-27 05:49

#3 I guess this means they're no longer confident they can plot terror attacks in peace. I like that in a community. A little fear goes a long way.

Posted by: Zhang Fei 2006-05-27 04:19

#2 Well said, indeed.

Posted by: Cromolet Phavish7868 2006-05-27 03:16

#1 One of the "brothers" plans to blow up subways full of New Yorkers and muslims can only complain that there are spies embedded to prevent just that. Well fuck you and the camel you rode in on Omar. Go back to your non-police state in Waziristan, unpolluted by infidels, or wherever the hell else you oozed in from. You and your breeding stock are no longer welcome. Get your ass out now and suffer the infidels no more.

It's another black eye for civil trials in what is the most vile form of warfare against American civilians. Two sources of insight into the ummah were burned, and terrorist-Americans alerted, in order to convict this Siraj peckerwood. A net loss in my view.

And for the unamed police official, you better be targeting the muslim population. That's where terrorists come from.

Posted by: ed 2006-05-27 02:52

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