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‘Crushing Hamas will isolate US and Israel’
2006-06-14
Crushing Hamas will isolate Israel and the United States in the international community and give birth to more Al Qaedas, said a visiting US academician on Tuesday.
Only a visiting US academician could make a statement quite that stoopid...
Delivering a lecture at Quaid-e-Azam University, Dr Scott Attran, professor of psychology at Michigan University, said that Hamas had the capacity and the international profile to promote peace in the region.
Though not the desire.
“Hamas has an internal and international stature and it will be counterproductive to dislodge Hamas from the government,” said Scott, adding there was an historic opportunity to achieve a peaceful settlement of the Palestinian issue.
I notice he didn't mention how...
He said that the popularity graph of Hamas had increased over the years, because the group had not compromised on the basic rights of the Palestinians. Besides, the Palestinians do not consider it (Hamas) to be corrupt like the Al-Fatah party, he said. Hamas had fifteen percent base support and occupied 56 percent seats in the Parliament, he said, adding that efforts to isolate and “starve” Hamas could be dangerous and result in the escalation of violence in the region.
How do you "escalate" over 100 percent?
Dr Attran, who visited Ramallah recently, said that majority of the Palestinians supported a compromise settlement with Israelis, despite the fact that 60 percent of Palestinians lived below the poverty line and 3,920 Palestinians had been killed by Israel since the start of the Intifada in September 2000.
Not that many lived below the poverty line before they decided to have a couple intifadas, did they? And in the learned academician's view the 3,920 Paleocorpses stand in splendid isolation, unconnected with any actions of live Paleostinians, many of whom eventually become the dead Paleostinians.
The PalestinianÂ’s support for violence would decrease when diplomacy is perceived as an effective tool for resolving their problems, and it increases when casualties resulting from Israeli attacks mount, he said.
Funny thing, the casualties resulting from Israeli attacks mount when the Israeli corpse count goes up. Must be some sort of coincidence, huh?
He said that support for militants decreased after the 1993 Oslo accords, while it rose sharply after 2000 and beginning of the second Intifada. He said that the Hamas government would never accept Quartet proposals regarding recognition of Israel. It (Hamas) will also not renounce violence, as no modern national liberation movement ever renounced the right to armed struggle under military occupation of a foreign power, he said. The road map for peace labeled Hamas a terrorist organisation and called for its elimination, he said.
So how's that make Hamas the best bet for peace? Are we missing something here?
He said that suicide bombers were aged between 15-30 and were not supported by majority of the Palestinian people. The suicide bombers carried out attacks when violence was inflicted on their community, he said. “These attacks are not for personal gains but symbolise sacred values,” he said.
Like killing Jews. What a tiresome wanker.
Posted by:Fred

#21  Crushing Hitler Hamas will isolate Israel and the United States in the international community and give birth to more SS Al Qaedas......
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-06-14 21:28  

#20  In Michigan, univiersity students tend to self-segregate. U of M calls itself the "Harvard of the Midwest" so radicals and radical wannabes go to U of M. People who want to learn useful things go to MSU, Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan, Central Michigan, etc. The fact that in the 60's, while Ann Arbor was the nexis of drug culture in Michigan, the drug of choice at Michigan State was beer pretty much sums up the situation.
Posted by: RWV   2006-06-14 21:24  

#19  Mine either, Frank, but I did have to take some "humanities" electives including one with a very Marxist sociology professor. I must admit that I never argued with him -- I judged him to be too stupid for rational discourse.
Posted by: Darrell   2006-06-14 21:16  

#18  depends on your school/interest. My engineering (BS and MS) professors never talked about politics at all
Posted by: Frank G   2006-06-14 21:12  

#17  We all know that decades ago, leftist lunacy became commonplace in Universities nationwide. In Grad School I had two professors who I can only describe as anti-american marxist clowns. I don't really know what the answer is, but I do know that radicalist leftist dogma in schools is doing inestimable damage to America.

In my case, the answer was to vehemently oppose and debate their BS whenever I had the chance. Of course it didn't change their minds (no 'mind' to change) but it was therapeutic. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the student body either agreed like mindless lemmings, or were too cowardly to speak up.

Were it not for the Universities, and the brainwashed socialists they produce, the Dems wouldn't have a pot to piss in.
Posted by: mcsegeek1   2006-06-14 20:49  

#16  Â“These attacks are not for personal gains but symbolise sacred values,”
If these are their sacred values, crush them.
Posted by: Darrell   2006-06-14 20:25  

#15  He said that the popularity graph of Hamas had increased over the years

All the Popular Fronts and Popular Brigades and Popular XXXXXX Jihad Sections call goose on this. We sit in the cool section now.
Posted by: 6   2006-06-14 16:21  

#14  Well, the Wall Israel has built and is continuing to build again shows what a great idea it was.

Let Hamas escalate and let Israeli artillery continue thumping.

I'm curious as to how Israel will respond to rocket attacks from the West Bank and how other governments will try and tie their hands in terms of responding to suck an attack.
Posted by: Danking70   2006-06-14 12:59  

#13  Crush away - we can handle it. :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2006-06-14 12:57  

#12  DoDo:

You're correct...see previous comments about Dr. Scott Attran, Univ. of Michigan and Prof. of Psychology.
Posted by: BA   2006-06-14 12:01  

#11  said that Hamas had the capacity and the international profile to promote peace in the region.



He said that the Hamas government would never accept Quartet proposals regarding recognition of Israel. It (Hamas) will also not renounce violence, as no modern national liberation movement ever renounced the right to armed struggle under military occupation of a foreign power, he said.

Either these statements are inconsistent or Mr. Attran is stating that Hamas will bring peace by destroying Israel.
Posted by: DoDo   2006-06-14 11:54  

#10  Professors of Psychology - Is there anything they don't know?
Posted by: Frank G   2006-06-14 08:42  

#9  And now, Dr Scott's advice for dealing with toddlers:

Do not be afraid to give in, every single time, when your child throws a temper tantrum. This validates the child and makes him or her feel important.

Dare to not impose consequences for bad behavior. They'll eventually figure out that throwing things at other people is "not nice". Sure, other diners may not appreciate having cutlery thrown at them during their meals, especially sharp steak knives, but it's a small price to pay to ensure your child's developing self-esteem is not damaged during these critical years.

This advice may seem counterintuitive to those who have raised children in the past, but remember, I'm a professor of psychology and know more than you do.
Posted by: Desert Blondie   2006-06-14 05:48  

#8  Americans really really should consider stopping the funding of universities via extortion.

Let students pay for a course in blackbereaveddisabledlesbiandwarf studies, and stop enslaving taxpayers.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2006-06-14 05:46  

#7  The overwhelming majority of Pals. killed during the Intifadas were killed by other Pals, not the IDF or Israeli police.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-06-14 03:18  

#6  Whadda moron. Prof of Psycology. Thar explains it he is nuts.

Paleos, loosing the same battles over and over since 1948 and not getting clue. Liberals thinking that they are winning.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2006-06-14 01:40  

#5  Next academician up, Churchill.
Posted by: Captain America   2006-06-14 01:26  

#4  Must not have seen that recent froggie poll tossing the paleos overboard.
Posted by: anonymous2u   2006-06-14 00:18  

#3  Doesn't matter; since he is from the University of Michigan, that pretty well sums it up. The U of M is the closest thing (IMHO) East of the Mississippi and West of the Appalachians to Berkley there is.
Posted by: USN Ret.   2006-06-14 00:14  

#2  No, he's a dipshit.
Posted by: Fred   2006-06-14 00:14  

#1  Let me guess. Attran is of Palo extraction?
Posted by: 3dc   2006-06-14 00:07  

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