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Iraq
So There WERE WMD's
2006-06-22
US-led coalition forces in Iraq have found some 500 chemical weapons since the March 2003 invasion, Republican lawmakers said, citing an intelligence report. "Since 2003, Coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent," said an overview of the report unveiled by Senator Rick Santorum and Peter Hoekstra, head of the intelligence committee of the House of Representatives.

"Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq's pre-Gulf war chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf war chemical munitions are assessed to still exist," it says.

The lawmakers cited the report as validation of the US rationale for the war, and stressed the ongoing danger they pose.

"This is an incredibly -- in my mind -- significant finding. The idea that, as my colleagues have repeatedly said in this debate on the other side of the aisle, that there are no weapons of mass destruction, is in fact false," Santorum said.

A Pentagon official who confirmed the findings said that all the weapons were pre-1991 vintage munitions "in such a degraded state they couldn't be used for what they are designed for." The official, who asked not to be identified, said most were 155 millimeter artillery projectiles with mustard gas or sarin of varying degrees of potency.

"We're destroying them where we find them in the normal manner," the official said. In 2004, the US army said it had found a shell containing sarin gas and another shell containing mustard gas, and a Pentagon official said at the time the discovery showed there were likely more. The intelligence overview published Wednesday stressed that the pre-Gulf War Iraqi chemical weapons could be sold on the black market.

"Use of these weapons by terrorists or insurgent groups would have implications for coalition forces in Iraq. The possibility of use outside Iraq cannot be ruled out," it said.

Santorum said the two-month-old report was prepared by the National Ground Intelligence Center, a military intelligence agency that started looking for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq when the Iraq Survey Group stopped doing so in late 2004.

Last year the head of Iraq Survey Group, Charles Duelfer, said that insurgents in Iraq had already used old chemical weapons in their attacks. Nevertheless, "the impression that the Iraqi Survey Group left with the American people was they didn't find anything," Hoekstra said.

"But this says: Weapons have been discovered; more weapons exist. And they state that Iraq was not a WMD-free zone, that there are continuing threats from the materials that are or may still be in Iraq," he said.

Asked just how dangerous the weapons are, Hoekstra said: "One or two of these shells, the materials inside of these, transferred outside of the country, can be very, very deadly."

The report said that the purity of the chemical agents -- and thus their potency -- depends on "many factors, including the manufacturing process, potential additives, and environmental storage conditions."

"While agents degrade over time, chemical warfare agents remain hazardous and potentially lethal," it said.

Reporters questioned the lawmakers as to why the Bush administration had not played up the report to boost their case for continued warfare in Iraq.

"The administration has been very clear that they want to look forward," Santorum said. "They felt it was not their role to go back and fight previous discussions."

Fear that Saddam Hussein might use his alleged arsenal of chemical and biological weapons was a reason US officials gave for launching the March 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Posted by:Bobby

#19  #17,
That became somewhat obvious when they tried using that Sarin 155mm Arty shell as an IED back in 2004?

Seems like Saddam and the Iraqi army liked keeping their chem weapons unlabeled or labeled as pesticide.

The ISG could never figure out why they had stored barrels of pesticide in their ammo dumps. Perhaps Saddam really, REALLY hated roaches.
Posted by: Anon4021   2006-06-22 21:06  

#18  I always thought they had WMDs. I mean they had them before and used them on the Kurds and Iranians. I think the question is not whether they had them but "What did they do with them?"
Posted by: JohnQC   2006-06-22 20:43  

#17  Scrolling through Instapundit's links, the thinking seems to be that the gas-filled shells were intermixed with regular ones with no markings to differentiate them. And there are weapons dumps all over the country -- they didn't want to give the bad guys a reason to go poking about.

My personal opinion (worth exactly what you just didn't pay for it!) is that they don't want to be distracted by arguing with the Media and the anti-War people about whether or not this relatively little stuff was worth going to war over, when we watched the trucks full of the important stuff head over the border and down to Lebanon's Bekaa Valley just before the invasion.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-06-22 19:14  

#16  SARIN gas does not degrade.
This stuff's hot.
Why was it being kept secret ? We don't want the 'insurgents' to get their paws on any of these.
Posted by: wxjames   2006-06-22 18:50  

#15  From Hotair comments.

http://digg.com/search?search=wmd+found&submit=Submit

There's two stories there.
1 says that Santorum and Foxnews are lying.
The other just links to the Foxnews article.

Digg it if you do that thing.
Posted by: Anon4021   2006-06-22 16:45  

#14  Instapundit has a roundup.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-06-22 14:53  

#13  Bugs and gas manufacturing facilities were in abundance. Attached are links to photo of a "tomato blight research facility" (destroyed by UNSCOM), the Canal Hotel in better times, and lastly the late Dr. Gerald Bull's super cannon.

http://www.un.org/Depts/unscom/presspack/prints/34_SAMPLE.JPG

http://www.un.org/Depts/unscom/presspack/prints/43_BMVCCOMMS.JPG

http://www.un.org/Depts/unscom/presspack/slides/02_super.jpg
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-06-22 14:41  

#12  Jim Angle who reported this for Fox News-quotes a defense official who says these were pre-1991 weapons that could not have been fired as designed because they already been degraded. And the official went on to say that they are-these are not the WMD's this country and the rest of the world believed Iraq had-and not the WMD's for which this country went to war.

Allan Colmes on FNC. Don't hold your breath for that apology.
Posted by: Ulomose Shirong2245   2006-06-22 14:07  

#11  Uh, what?
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/06/22.html#a8810
Posted by: Anon4021   2006-06-22 13:28  

#10  Besides, Bush Lied was years ago. So the MSM was misinformed. Happens all the time.

they didn't lie; they were misinformed.

Oh, the irony.
Posted by: Bobby   2006-06-22 12:20  

#9  I still blame Bush

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al   2006-06-22 11:30  

#8  All you will hear from the MSM is that they were beyond their "use before" date. Maybe Pinch and his buds can make a little extra ching by storing these, assumably, inert and useless oldies in their basements?
Posted by: OyVey1   2006-06-22 11:09  

#7  I'm sure the MSM will be all over this.

on page F-59, lower left, small print....
Posted by: CrazyFool   2006-06-22 11:05  

#6  I QUESTION THE TIMING!
Posted by: Anon4021   2006-06-22 10:46  

#5  ANSWER lied, people died.
Posted by: Korora   2006-06-22 10:24  

#4  I apologize for slavery. There, I said it. And I mean it. I feel your pain.
Posted by: w j clinton   2006-06-22 10:20  

#3  Being a lefty means never having to say you're sorry. Ever hear them apologize for the hundreds of thousands of boat people who didn't make it? For the million+ Cambodians who died in the third Holocaust of the 20th Century? for the mountains of 10s of millions of human beings sacrificed by Stalin and Mao to the glory of the great socialist revolution? It's never been about principle. It's aways been about power. And all they have to gain that power is to sell you the bill of goods labeled "Sin and Guilt".
Posted by: Whinetle Grush9406   2006-06-22 09:53  

#2  So, when can we expect a full apology from the MSM, the democrats and the left?
Posted by: DarthVader   2006-06-22 09:35  

#1  THE LEFT LIED!
Now people die, as the terrorists, who have been defeated upon the battlefield hold out another week, month, year, in hope that each butchery of stage media events will gain their allies in the Democratic Party the power to surrender.
Posted by: Glish Chaith1878   2006-06-22 08:51  

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