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| US DOD sez Say "hirabah" or "mufsidun", not "jihad" or "mujahdeen" |
| 2006-06-24 |
| Talking the right lingo when confronting a Muslim about Al Qaeda. '...The men asked Muslim scholars what the correct term for Islamic extremists would be and they came up with "hirabah." This word specifically refers to those engaged in sinful warfare, warfare contrary to Islamic law. "We should describe the Islamic totalitarian movement as the global hirabah, not the global jihad," they wrote. Another word constantly misused in the West is mujahdeen. Again, in American dictionaries this word refers to a holy warrior - again a good thing. So calling an al Qaeda terrorist a mujahid legitimizes him... The correct term for these killers is "mufsidun," Streusand and Tunnell say. This refers to an evil or corrupt person. "There is no moral ambiguity and the specific denotation of corruption carries enormous weight in most of the Islamic world," they wrote." |
| Posted by:Gromosh Elminegum5705 |
| #16 I'm not in the theater of war, so I call them scum-sucking cowards, emissaries of a corrupt and disgusting ideal - Allan - but that's just me.. |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-06-24 22:58 |
| #15 Fordesque -- you are missing the point. Granting respect to the concepts and terms of a totalitarian ideology is the opposite of what the West needs to do. What someone in special forces does is something else. Jihad is not a benevolent concept. Islam is not a benevolent ideology. 1400 years of warfare, conquest and slavery on the part of the Mohammedans should be enough evidence. Try to transpose the meaning of that article by substituting Nazism for Islam and Nazi ideals for jihad etc. |
| Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) 2006-06-24 22:27 |
| #14 Say bombs away. |
| Posted by: gromgoru 2006-06-24 21:06 |
| #13 "I don't see why free men need to change the way they speak about the slaves of Mohammed's death cult." You turnip. It is for the same reason free men of the Special Forces grow beards, don native dress, and sit through endless hours of cardamon-flavoured coffee with the elders. It is another tool in the metaphorical tool-bag. Just as valuable as rifle or money, sometimes more so. |
| Posted by: Fordesque 2006-06-24 17:25 |
| #12 mufsidun = miscreants? That would be cool with me. |
| Posted by: twobyfour 2006-06-24 16:21 |
| #11 Jihad Dirka Dirka! |
| Posted by: Phil 2006-06-24 15:56 |
| #10 No it's not a bad thing but jeeebus.... the specific denotation of corruption carries enormous weight in most of the Islamic world har har har! more like... |
| Posted by: 6 2006-06-24 14:57 |
| #9 To quote the great Sir Winston Churchill, if you are going to kill someone, it costs nothing to be polite... or even use words that delegitimise them. I'd rather see them dead... and dishonored. |
| Posted by: Sgt. Mom 2006-06-24 14:52 |
| #8 Yep, no more jihadis. Just call 'em Dead Men Walking. |
| Posted by: SOP35/Rat 2006-06-24 13:39 |
| #7 Just call them "dead". That's fine with me. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2006-06-24 11:15 |
| #6 Their language is to call us pigs, monkeys, infidel, etc. Their actions are to behead captives and brag about it, and to commit mass-murder. Why would free men pretend that the problem doesn't lie in Islam, the ideology that motivates all of the above? |
| Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) 2006-06-24 11:07 |
| #5 This is not a bad thing. If one wishes to influence and people, one should use their language and customs. It also gives the impression that one "understands" them, ergo one is no longer a barbarian-foreigner. A slight thing, but effective. |
| Posted by: Fordesque 2006-06-24 10:54 |
| #4 wonder if Streusand's nickname is "Babs"? |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-06-24 10:53 |
| #3 So, are Streusand and Tunnell "fuckin idjits" or merely "PC-addled morons"? I wanna get it right. |
| Posted by: Snans Glosing2433 2006-06-24 10:42 |
| #2 I suppose that's what the Moslem Moderates have been doing all along, right? Otherwise, I don't see why free men need to change the way they speak about the slaves of Mohammed's death cult. |
| Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) 2006-06-24 10:36 |
| #1 How about "devil-worshipping savages?" |
| Posted by: Jackal 2006-06-24 10:31 |