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Hamas leader insists Israel will surrender on demands |
2006-06-27 |
A leader of the Hamas Islamic group today said he believed Israel would give in to the demands of Palestinian militants who kidnapped an Israeli soldier. Yehieh Mussa also called for international mediation between the sides in the affair that began when Palestinian militants attacked an Israeli army base near the Gaza Strip on Sunday and kidnapped a soldier. Israel believes the Hamas military wing is holding the soldier, although the group has not confirmed this. “They are going to surrender, they are going to give in,” Mussa said in an interview with a website affiliated with Hamas. International mediation is necessary to help solve the kidnapping crisis, Mussa said. He said international mediators were preferable to Arab interlocutors, including Egypt, because all Arabs should be firmly on the Palestinian side. Israel believes that Palestinian prime minister Ismail Haniyeh, of Hamas, is involved in contact with the militants to win the release of the soldier. |
Posted by:ryuge |
#11 "he believed Israel would give in to the demands of Palestinian militants" Well now, after one car explosion, one power plant explosion, two bridge explosions... He wouldn't even make a good carnival fortune teller. He will be dead within 24 hours -- that's my prediction. |
Posted by: Darrell 2006-06-27 19:49 |
#10 ok, it could be theyre just bloodthirsty crazies. But before we assume thats the case, lets think if theres any other explanation for a kidnapping that makes them look bad before the world, and justifies an Israeli incursion. 1. Do we know that Hamas is united? Haniyeh is the PM. That means a nice salary, limo, perks, influence. He has plenty of reason to want to stay in power, and to want to get the money thing settled so he can actually get the perks. Which is presumably why hes talking to Abbas, and maybe really would cut some kind of deal ('we do recognize the EEVIL Zionist entity, and pledge not to destroy it for 20 years, and make that 30 years if we get a pony") On the other hand if the Hamasniks on the ground get more power, that makes Meshal relatively less influential. And any deal that relieves the pressure on Abbas weakens Syria. So maybe this is a group in Gaza thats loyal to Meshal and Syria, and is doing this precisely to provoke an incursion, in order to make it impossible for Haniyeh to make a deal with Abbas. 2. Similar to above, expect Hamas is united, and no part of it is serious about a deal with Abbas. But they are backed into a corner by Abbas proffer of the prisoners plan, and are beginning to lose the battle on the street. In particular, while the dominate Gaza, Fatah is stronger in the West Bank. What we see as an opportunity for popcorn, is to them, a desperate struggle for power and survival. They see themselves as outmaneuvered by Abbas and Dahlan, and they are trying to the one thing that completely undercuts Abbas and Dahlan - provoke an Israeli incursion. |
Posted by: liberalhawk 2006-06-27 16:37 |
#9 I agree Cyber Sarge. Israel needs to call the shots. "If you don't return our soldier unharmed, we will take you out." does not cut it. Give them a free introductory offer and then demand the soldier in 6 hours. After that, take out Hamas. Period. I am amazed that the Israelis put up with this. The Euros are Paleo lite. You cannot appease a$$holes and be successful. Same applies to the US vs. a$$holes. |
Posted by: Alaska Paul 2006-06-27 11:56 |
#8 What interesting is these yahooÂ’s donÂ’t understand that they are not on the winning side of this argument. What I mean is they believe the threats, kidnapping, killings, and lies are accepted ways to govern. If I were king for a day I would turn the capital into rubble and then ask for my soldier back. If within 24 no word from the leadership I would move to the next biggest city and so on. After a while the terrorists would either cease to exists or become a lot more complacent. As for the public suffering well they elected Hamas so they can suffer under them. |
Posted by: Cyber Sarge 2006-06-27 10:41 |
#7 "Have fun in the desert there, Egypt's thataway." |
Posted by: mojo 2006-06-27 10:20 |
#6 The Euros have some economic influence over Israel. The Arabs have little or no influence of any kind. He's hoping the Euros put a leash on the Israelis. Good luck. The Israelis are not in a leash-accepting mood, I suspect. And the Euros almost certainly realize that since it is a wing of Hamas that is responsible, this really is a legal grounds for war - or at least sufficiently close that they might want to keep their vaunted moral superiority and adherance to international "law" clean on this one. |
Posted by: lotp 2006-06-27 09:22 |
#5 He said international mediators were preferable to Arab interlocutors, including Egypt, because all Arabs should be firmly on the Palestinian side. Got lots of taqiyya in mind, do you? Too scared to lie to the Arabs and prefer to lie to the infidels and call it "mediation". |
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 2006-06-27 09:03 |
#4 These dudes are spun. Israel is going to come rumbling through there with a heavy armor division and level the entire strip if they don't give that kid back. I get the feeling that he is already dead and they are trying to buy some time before they find out. |
Posted by: bigjim-ky 2006-06-27 08:15 |
#3 How deep's your hole, Yeeha? Dig it deeper... |
Posted by: tu3031 2006-06-27 07:52 |
#2 Here Mr. Mussa, take these pink earplugs and stick em in fast..... |
Posted by: Besoeker 2006-06-27 06:51 |
#1 "...Plus, we demand ponies! For EVERYBODY!!" Mike |
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski 2006-06-27 06:49 |