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Home Front: WoT
Pak immigrant kills 1, wounds 5 in Seattle
2006-07-29
Follow-up on the story we started late yesterday, so forgive the duplicate information. I'm promoting this to page 1 as I think it's WoT related. Please post updates in the comments, and the mods will move new information into a new post later today.
SEATTLE – One person is dead and five others have been injured in a shooting at the Jewish Federation at 2031 Third Ave. in downtown Seattle. One suspect has been taken into custody. Seattle police spokesman Rich Pruitt said police are confident that only one shooter was involved.
From what I've heard to date, that's likely true. The guy sounds like a nutball...
Sources told KING 5 the suspect is a 31-year-old Pakistani man with a criminal background. He is from the Pasco but his citizenship status or how long he has lived in the United States is unknown. Also unknown is what sort of criminal record he has. Officials are on the way to the Pasco to interview his family. FBI spokesman David Gomez said officials believe the suspect acted alone and is not affiliated with a foreign organization.
That's a big claim to make. How about a little investigation first, Dave?
It's another Angry Brown Male story. It's the loneliness that gets to them. They're too far out of their element. Back home, he was with all his friends. He was comfortable. They'd get together down at the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi cell and compare turbans and plot a few murders. Here, he's by himself. Can't even get together a big enough gang to beat up a Jew.
According to the Seattle Times, a man got through security at the Jewish Federation and told staff members, "I'm a Muslim American; I'm angry at Israel," then began shooting, according to Amy Wasser-Simpson, the vice president for planning and community services for the Jewish Federation.
Kinda says it all, doesn't it? "I'm a Muslim American of Pak origin and I've brought my national fixation on religion coupled with mindless violence with me, so I'm going to kill somebody at random."
A Harborview Medical Center spokesperson said five women were brought in, and three of them are in critical condition. They have not yet been identified. Their ages are 23, 27, 29, 19 and 43. The 43-year-old woman was reportedly shot in the abdomen. Two vicitms were in satisfactory condition: a woman, who's 17 weeks pregnant whowas shot in the arm and another victim with a knee injury.
Unlike ABMs, 43-year-old Jewish ladies are unlikely to be armed and dangerous, especially in Seattle. Prob'ly he's poor and oppressed and can't afford plane fare to go to Beirut to join up with Hezbollah and fight actual Zionists. Besides which, they're Shiites, so all his friends back at the Jhangvi cell would make fun of him before they killed him.
A joint terrorism task force joined SWAT teams and a bomb disposal unit at the scene. The suspect's vehicle, a pick-up truck was in a nearby garage in the Bed, Bath and Beyond building, at 1930 Third Ave. Police cordoned off part of the garage before they determined there were no explosives.
More on local opinion, interviews with witnesses, etc. in this story.

From the Seattle PI, snipping the duplicate information:

One witness, who declined to give her name, said a man walked into the Jewish Federation building with a gun, said he was upset about what was going on in Israel, then opened fire. After the shootings, the man said to call 911, the witness said. The witness said the man identified himself as an American Muslim. Police officers throughout the city were being asked to step up patrols of Jewish synagogues and Jewish organizations.
But don't go stopping Punjabi males, mind you. We must be sensitive. CAIR will be rushing to the defense tomorrow, if they're not there already.
The Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle was established 1926. According to its Web site, its mission is to "ensure Jewish survival and to enhance the quality of Jewish life locally, in Israel and worldwide." The Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle is a fund raising and fund allocation organization. "It is the Jewish version of the United Way," Rabbi Daniel Weiner said. He said he is at a loss to understand why people in that building would be attacked.
One guess, Dan.
"To delve into the mind of a clearly troubled and disturbed person is impossible," Weiner said. "It is heartbreaking to think of what is transpiring."
Really, Dan, it's not that hard. And we'll be seeing more of it in the future, since we're a welcoming society and we wallow in the delights of Diversity™, whether it drops the advocates of violence on our shores or not.
The Jewish Federation building is known for its security with gates and buzzers, puzzling many who go there as to how the gunman entered.

And from the Seattle Times:

Even as rabbis were trying to find out more about security in preparation for tonight's services, Robert Jacobs, the regional director of the Anti-Defamation League, was issuing a recommendation to every Jewish institution, synagogue and temple that they get their people out of their buildings "until we find out if it's a lone incident."
Just another lone incident, nothing to see, move along ...
It probably is, but there are probably more lone incidents out there waiting to happen. We've got three of them in today's 'Burg...
"We're trying to keep the community as calm as possible," he added.
That statement means something entirely different in Seattle from what it means in Multan. Somehow I can't picture Jewish mobs roaming the streets, torching cars, and looting shops.
American Jews don't seethe well, it's not in their nature ...
Rabbi Daniel Weiner of Temple De Hirsch Sinai had said he was checking with police to see if security there needed to be bolstered, if indeed, the shootings were related to wider issues. But several rabbis said they were continuing with services anyway. "Even if [the shooting] is based on hate, we're not going to let that have any kind of victory over our community gathering," said Rabbi Jonathan Singer of Seattle's Temple Beth Am.
Posted by:Steve White

#47  Haq's father, Mian Haq, [works] at the Hanford nuclear reservation, as do many members of the area's Muslim community. AP
Posted by: KBK   2006-07-29 19:28  

#46  6,

I'm disappointed that you picked the easier question to answer. Scientific vs. Rhetorical.
Posted by: Poison Reverse   2006-07-29 18:52  

#45  How many eggs does it take to become a dozen?

Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh1 A Koan! 12? No wait, that's to obvious, 19?
Posted by: 6   2006-07-29 18:22  

#44  How many eggs does it take to become a dozen?

How many lone Muslim gunmen does is take to become a collusory? Obviously, more than the amount of eggs needed to become a dozen.
Posted by: Poison Reverse   2006-07-29 18:03  

#43  Richland is a nice quiet place, very peaceful. You'll see children riding bikes to school unescorted. Reminds me of the 1950's. Pasco is a bit on the TexMex side. Doubt if it had anything to do with Hanford Nuclear Site, but there's a hundred and fifty or so underground vats of bubbling radioative goooo out there that have yet to be solidified and sent to Yuka Mtn. Toss him arss into one of them and be done with him.
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-07-29 18:00  

#42  I am from Richland and when I used to live there there where very few muslim families and almost all of them where from India or Pakistan. Pasco is near Richland, its one of the tricities, but I dont think you can make much of a connection between this guy and the Hanford site based on what we have seen so far.
Posted by: robi   2006-07-29 16:46  

#41  Authorities said officers were moving to protect both synagogues and mosques around the city but there was no evidence of a broad threat. Police were protecting mosques "because there's always the concern of retaliatory crime," Kerlikowske said.

No need to protect mosques (unfortunately). Jews wouldn't do that. They just get ACCUSED of doing that.
Posted by: PlanetDan   2006-07-29 16:31  

#40  Are we talking Richmond, Home of the Bombers, Washington?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-07-29 15:49  

#39  What two words will you *not* see in any MSM reports on this?

Hate Crime


If the victims were muslim you *know* CAIR and the MSM will be screaming for blood for the 'Hate Crime' from the rooftops. If the victims were gay, or 'of color' the media will be screaming it in bold headlines.

But since the victims are only Jews (and the terrorist is a muslims) you will never see those two words appearing in any media report.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2006-07-29 15:36  

#38  Richland is where the Hanford Nuclear site is. That's where the plutonium for the Nagasaki bomb was made. Interesting.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2006-07-29 14:27  

#37  Frozen Al: yes.
Posted by: Dave D.   2006-07-29 12:33  

#36  Nice Pakistani family living in Richland, WA involved with establishing an outpost of the ROP in the Tri-Cities...

Perhaps we'll find that Pappa Haq does nuclear work at DOE's Pacific Northwest National Laboratory. (www.pnl.gov)
Posted by: Classical_Liberal   2006-07-29 12:04  

#35  I can't understand why a woman wouldn't be attracted to such a successful and personable young man!

P.S. Does the "Peace be onto you" in the picture creep anyone else out?

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al   2006-07-29 11:44  

#34  "Haq displayed a streak of anti-Semitism"

Ya' think?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2006-07-29 11:41  

#33  "Even if [the shooting] is based on hate..."

As opposed to all the shootings based on Love?

"...frustrated by his inability to find a job or a girlfriend."

I smell the ole "ticking [turbun] timebomb" defense.
Posted by: DepotGuy   2006-07-29 11:29  

#32  Seems to be the SOP for describing the "lone gunman" terrorist attack. The Turkish Gov't declared that both shootings of Catholic priests in that country were conducted by "insane" yutes.
Posted by: mrp   2006-07-29 10:54  

#31  From the Seattle Times:

A friend of Haq's in Everett, who spoke on condition he not be named, said Friday night that Haq was on medication for bipolar disorder and was frustrated by his inability to find a job or a girlfriend. Haq displayed a streak of anti-Semitism, sometimes making offhand comments about Jews.

Ah, yes. "Bipolar". How did I know that would show up in this?
Posted by: tu3031   2006-07-29 10:29  

#30  
Posted by: john   2006-07-29 10:11  

#29  This is the lowlife



Haq's father, Mian A. Haq, was a founding member of the Islamic Centre of Tri-Cities in Richland, said center member Youseff Shehadeh. He described the younger Haq as a loner who attended holidays at the center but was barely involved in recent years.

Naveed Haq's parents moved into a new suburb in Pasco less than three years ago after living in nearby Richland for more than a decade, said Maureen Hales, a neighbor.

Mian Haq was involved in an Islamic center in Richland, but he did not discuss his religion with his neighbors, said Hales.

She said she had not seen Naveed Haq, but found his parents and his younger brother, Hasan, to be "quite enjoyable." The two families exchanged food, and Maureen Hales said she watches the Haqs' house when they're away.

Naveed Haq lived in an apartment building at 2924 Nassau St. in Everett until about two weeks ago, when he abruptly left, said tenant Chris Richey. The landlady told Richey that Haq was heading to Pakistan. Richie often talked with Haq about guns and politics, though little stuck out. Richey said Haq didn't like President Bush.
Posted by: john   2006-07-29 10:08  

#28  Just another lone Muslim gunman. Like the guy who shot Kahane (and was connected to the first WTC attack). Or the DC "snipers" (who somehow had access to tons of cash, fake passports, etc).

Funny how many "lone Muslim gunmen" have big support networks.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2006-07-29 10:04  

#27  Whatta we got, Muldoon?
Looks like another Muslim victim, sir. He 's says these jewish ladies made his gun go off so they could steal all his bullets.
Posted by: tu3031   2006-07-29 09:34  

#26  You left out "tiny", TW. :)
Posted by: cruiser   2006-07-29 09:12  

#25  from Yahoo news - updates:

Authorities said officers were moving to protect both synagogues and mosques around the city but there was no evidence of a broad threat. Police were protecting mosques "because there's always the concern of retaliatory crime," Kerlikowske said.

Setting up muslims as the victims here.

Haq's lawyer, Larry Stephenson, told The Times that he thought Haq was single and unemployed. Stephenson said Haq had a misdemeanor lewd conduct charge pending in Benton County, near Pasco. He had been accused of exposing himself in a public place, he told The Times.

Guy's a real dick.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412   2006-07-29 09:09  

#24  Watch as the media and govmint start the spin that he is alone and mentally unstable.
Posted by: BrerRabbit   2006-07-29 08:41  

#23  trailing wife:
Actually, the assigned names are funny.

Please read the attached link (AOL permitting). Hindus are peaceful, but this is ridiculous:

Posted by: Snease Shaiting3550   2006-07-29 08:02  

#22  "#3 I'm a Muslim American"

They call themselves Indian Muslims everywhere in SE Asia. Does that mean they implicitly despise American citizenship more?
Posted by: Duh!   2006-07-29 07:37  

#21  The next time you post a comment, Snease Shaiting3550 , just type in your name or preferred nym in the "Your Name" box. It would be helpful for those of us less aware of individual styalistic quirks if you would append "formerly Snease Shaiting3550" to the end for a day or two, to give yourself posting continuity. Oh, and make sure you enable Rantburg's cookies, or your computer won't remember who you choose to become. Welcome aboard!
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-07-29 07:22  

#20  Snease Shaiting? I want a cooler name than that.
Posted by: Snease Shaiting3550   2006-07-29 07:08  

#19  At this very moment, CAIR is probably perparing their statement of regret that such a think could happen in the name of islam, and to express sorrow for the victims.

(hehehe sometimes I crack myself up)
Posted by: PlanetDan   2006-07-29 05:57  

#18  Muslims are peaceful, therefore this fat Paki cannot be a Muslim. And jihad is a personal struggle against obesity.
Posted by: Abdullah Paduka   2006-07-29 05:30  

#17  ... and says: "We did not play cowboys and muslims yet."
Posted by: zazz   2006-07-29 04:27  

#16  with a poodle under one arm and a two foot salami under the other,... :)
Posted by: Jud Nelson   2006-07-29 03:47  

#15  Ok, so a Shiite, a Sunni and an Aggie were walking down the street.......
Posted by: mcsegeek1   2006-07-29 03:29  

#14  Cornhusker once upon a time...
Posted by: 3dc   2006-07-29 02:19  

#13  //#5 Watch that. I'm a Texas Aggie!
Posted by anymouse 2006-07-29 00:56|| Front Page|| ||Comments Top
//

And I'm in Austin!

Root for Stanford though...slinks off....
Posted by: Thoth   2006-07-29 02:05  

#12  disinfect the islamic slime
Posted by: RD   2006-07-29 01:43  

#11  Another brave Lion of Islam™ gunning down unarmed women for Allan. What a race of warriors!
Posted by: Dar   2006-07-29 01:34  

#10  Before the Seattle police check out any mosques, they will have to thoroughly investigate all churches and synagogues in the name PC, the holy creator. I'm sure the Scientologists will get raided before any mosques do.
Posted by: Thoth   2006-07-29 01:31  

#9  In case anyone was wondering, the congregation pays the police salaries when they are guarding us. I've no doubt I'll be seeing a bill for our share of the increased costs -- they'd already cut staffing to pay for such costs post-9/11, but that wasn't for every day.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-07-29 01:30  

#8  Just another f**kin' Paki. Also, I see the A-rabs had a giant rally for Hizbollah in Detroit. I would suggest everyone look around and note where these Muzzies are. The f**kers are all over. Keep your guns clean and ammo ready.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat   2006-07-29 01:25  

#7  So tell me what is the difference between Seattle authorities' reaction and, say, the Dutch?
Posted by: ed   2006-07-29 01:12  

#6  I guess the police will move into my synagogue permanently now, instead of just for the major holidays. And the Jewish school office staff will actually look out the window to see the visitors before buzzing them in.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-07-29 01:06  

#5  Watch that. I'm a Texas Aggie!
Posted by: anymouse   2006-07-29 00:56  

#4  I'm an Oklahoma State Cowboy
No comprende.
Posted by: gromgoru   2006-07-29 00:51  

#3  I'm a Muslim American

And I'm a Jewish Buddhist.


Oh yeah? I'm an Oklahoma State Cowboy.

Top that!
Posted by: badanov   2006-07-29 00:48  

#2  I wonder what the imam said at Friday prayers in Seattle?
Posted by: Seafarious   2006-07-29 00:40  

#1  I'm a Muslim American

And I'm a Jewish Buddhist.
Posted by: gromgoru   2006-07-29 00:34  

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