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Are Poles out of EU step?
2006-08-03
The clash of values between the new Polish government and the liberal elites who have long dominated the social policies of the European Union is becoming serious. An EU spokesman Wednesday rebuffed the proposal for a referendum on capital punishment from Poland's President Lech Kaczynski, stating "the death penalty is not compatible with European values."

Not one of the 25 current member states of the EU operates the death penalty, and other countries that seek to associate with the EU through the Council of Europe (the parent body of the European Court of Human Rights) is required to relinquish it. Both Russia and Turkey have dropped the use of the death penalty to safeguard their Council of Europe status.

But President Kaczynski's Law and Justice party, with strong roots in the conservative wing of the Roman Catholic church, fought and won the last election on a tough law and order platform that also opposed abortion and homosexuality. Last week in what aides described as "a major policy speech," President Kaczynski said that Europeans would come to understand that the death penalty was "the fit and proper punishment for murder." His junior coalition partner in government, the populist and anti-EU party known as the League of Polish Families, immediately called for a referendum in Poland on the return of the death penalty for pedophile murders, which opinion polls suggest would be almost certain to pass.

At the same time, the former director of EU affairs in the Polish foreign ministry, Pawel Swieboda, has resigned along with several senior colleagues, complaining of the new Polish government's anti-EU attitudes. "The government do not trust people with documented pro-EU views. If you have demonstrated engagement with Europe over the past few years, you are not part of the inner circle," Swieboda told the EUObserver information agency in an interview Thursday. "This government is focused on internal politics and EU affairs are a distant question. They don't adequately identify the impact of European policies on national politics," Swieboda said. "The cost of this is that Poland won't be among those EU countries shaping new political realities."
Posted by:Fred

#10  "Are Poles out of EU step?"

The Poles are just fine. The EU, however, is out of step with reality.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2006-08-03 20:59  

#9  Outstanding book, BP. For those without the time to read it (fascinating, but very dense), visit the author's blog, EU Referendum, the first to note the discrepanices in the MSM pictures from Qana.
Posted by: ST   2006-08-03 16:52  

#8  The clash of values between the new Polish government and the liberal elites who have long dominated the social policies of the European Union is becoming serious.

Much could be said about Americans after they threw off the yoke of their former masters in 1776 too.
Posted by: Shuque Spavise4087   2006-08-03 15:15  

#7  How undemocratic of the elites to define "EU values" without putting it to a vote. What is the Politburo afraid of?

Exactly Tony, and the US should definitely be redirecting trade (tariffs should be used to advance national policy) from enemies (e.g. China who is arming NK, Pakistan, and Iran with ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons) to spur economic growth and open government with those who want to be our friends. In addition, the US should help eastern Europe and the former USSR republics to become energy independent from Russia by financing 3-4 dozen large nuclear reactors. As long as they are dependent on Moscow to not freeze or power their industry, then they will never be independent. The same goes for the US energy independence and it's cheaper than what the US doing now.
Posted by: ed   2006-08-03 15:07  

#6  I think Poland got the Most Favored Nation status a few years back. They know what it feels like to be abandoned by the west and are now firmly in charge of their future. Don't expect them to give in on anything.
Posted by: 49 Pan   2006-08-03 14:19  

#5  The poles march to their own drummer.

NAFTA for Poland!
Posted by: DarthVader   2006-08-03 12:38  

#4  Poland got into the EU because of the trade possibilties (same as us). They didn't get into it to have their culture and sovereignty handed over to a bunch of shysters in Brussels and Strasbourg.

I wonder if this could be the beginning of the end?

GW, if you want to really screw the EU, start offering places in NAFTA to countries in Europe ;)
Posted by: Tony (UK)   2006-08-03 12:32  

#3  Out of step with the EU? One might better ask if the Poles are one of the few members of the EU that have a clue. Funny how the the eastern European countries that had close encounters with the fUSSR have a better grasp of what tyranny is all about.
Posted by: SteveS   2006-08-03 12:14  

#2  "The government do not trust people with documented pro-EU views."

And here's a book that tells you why you shouldn't.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0826480144/026-5716187-6080420?v=glance&n=266239
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2006-08-03 11:57  

#1  Poles are not going to be dhimmi to anyone EU or Muzzies.
Posted by: djohn66   2006-08-03 11:49  

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