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| 30 nations mulling role in Leb int'l force |
| 2006-08-08 |
| Despite complications, at least 15 countries have expressed a willingness to contribute troops to an international stabilization force in southern Lebanon if one is formed after a cease-fire and under a clear UN mandate. At least nine other nations say they're ready to provide support; six others remain undecided about their roles. The breakdown, with details where available: Deploy troops: AUSTRALIA - "very limited" contingent BRAZIL - no specifics CHILE - no specifics FRANCE - no more than 5,000 troops GHANA - no specifics INDONESIA - 1 battalion (about 800 troops) ITALY - no specifics LITHUANIA - no specifics MALAYSIA - 1,000 troops NIGERIA - no specifics NORWAY - 1 squadron of 4 missile torpedo boats, nearly 100 marines PORTUGAL - no specifics ROMANIA - no specifics SPAIN - no specifics TURKEY - "significant" contribution likely; no specifics Provide support: BRITAIN - possible technical assistance CYPRUS _ transport humanitarian aid; possible staging point for forces CZECH REPUBLIC - humanitarian aid, firefighting equipment DENMARK - navy ship possible GREECE - help transport aid JAPAN - humanitarian aid POLAND - keep 200 U.N. peacekeepers already in Lebanon SLOVAKIA - doctors, humanitarian aid UNITED STATES - train and equip Lebanese army Undecided: FINLAND GERMANY PAKISTAN RUSSIA SLOVENIA SWEDEN If it ever happens and I have my doubts, it looks like France, Turkey + Indonesia/Malaysia, with a few token forces from elsewhere. And if they do try and disarm Hizbollocks, they will take a lot of causalties and I predict will be withdrawn by the end of the year. Another bloody clusterf**k brought to you by the UN. |
| Posted by:phil_b |
| #25 But the germans can't go I mean that would be like 1939 all over again. If we had let thém finish the job then the middle east would be fine |
| Posted by: T 2006-08-08 03:17 |
| #24 For some things we can depend upon the French. This was the nicest gift they could give to Israel. You've got months to go Olmert. Use them wisely. Pretend it's only weeks. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2006-08-08 20:46 |
| #23 French backing out (no surprise), probably want Hezbos to watch themselves. |
| Posted by: Captain America 2006-08-08 20:41 |
| #22 The western troops will become human shields and the muslim troops will be hezb'allah allies. I am really ashamed for any US gov official who would even consider this. Israel should annex the land to the Litani river. The only troops should be Lebanese north of the Litani. If additional attacks are launched, then there is no doubt which government is responsible and should suffer the consequences. If you allow war to be launched from your territory and lose, you deserve to lose said territory. Actions have consequnces. End of story. |
| Posted by: ed 2006-08-08 19:27 |
| #21 Frozen Al: I just figured that it'd take em 5-6 months to bring in another 5-10K rockets by mule cart, ambulance, taxi, etc. If there is a next time, I suspect that Hizb will try to coordinate it's barrages much more carefully and get more effect on target (which is a nice way of saying kill more joooos). I forgot two milestones: D+34 ---- UN GENSEK proclaims that the peacekeeping mission is "saved" because of 3rd world and Islamic countries remaining. D+35 ---- Robert Fisk writes nasty column praising Maylaysia and Ghana for staying while the evil Westerners bugged out. |
| Posted by: 11A5S 2006-08-08 18:56 |
| #20 The West and allies better be careful on this one. The UN desn't really have the cajones to do anything that is useful. Any peacekeeping force has to be ready to disarm and/or kill the Hezzies. The U.S. seems to be assuming that Lebanon and the Hezzies are two separate entities. From what's coming out of Lebanon, this doesn't seem to be true--they seem to be wedded at the hip. Contributing to the problem are the pencil-necked doofus in Syrian and the sawed off Hitlerian dictator from Iran. Why not go after the real problem? |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2006-08-08 17:10 |
| #19 Execute your OPLAN on your order Patriot. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2006-08-08 17:09 |
| #18 I do believe the US should contribute, and heavily - as in, tell the Israelis to pull back beyond the blue line, then plaster everything south of the Litani with load after load of B-52s with a maximum load of iron bombs. THEN the UN can deploy the rest of its forces to grade, plow, and seed (with anti-personnel mines) the bare landscape of everything south of the Litani, build a few guard-posts along the river, and "maintain order and security". It'll be a bit rough on the locals, but all that have stayed were told to get out long before this. Tough. |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2006-08-08 17:07 |
| #17 Whole lotta toe-dippin' goin' on... |
| Posted by: Unuling Elmese1800 2006-08-08 16:54 |
| #16 This just in form Israel; Keep mulling, we're reloading. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-08-08 16:49 |
| #15 Australia's busy in its backyard. It seems to me they have to expect action in Indonesia. |
| Posted by: Eric Jablow 2006-08-08 16:20 |
| #14 11A5S You seem unusally optimistic about the time lapse between "Hizb'alla resumes infiltrating arms and militias into south Lebanon" and "Missile attacks on Israel resume". I'm assuming the time lapse would be 1 week. Al |
| Posted by: Frozen Al 2006-08-08 14:32 |
| #13 Predicted timeline of deployment: D-Day --- Stability force deploys D+30 ---- Hizb'allan launches multiple suicide attacks on German, Norweigian, Spanish and Australian observation posts. D+31 ---- 1st world nations begin withdrawal D+32 ---- Hizb'allan approaches 3rd world and Islamic contingents and promises them safety in return for looking the other way and the occasional favor. Amazingly, all agree. D+33 ---- Hizb'allan resumes infiltrating arms and militias into south Lebanon. D+180 --- Missile attacks on Israel resume. |
| Posted by: 11A5S 2006-08-08 14:16 |
| #12 I can't think of anything worse than Hezb'Allah terrorist weapons pointed at the backs of German troops with their weapons pointed, pursuant to UNIFIL orders, at Jewish troops. No International force should go in until all Hezbs are dead at which point an international force will be unnecessary. Let the kids fight this one out. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2006-08-08 13:46 |
| #11 1. No specifics means no specifics, it doesnt mean no troops. 2. The addition of Germany troops would help. 3. This looks to be a bigger force, with a fuller mandate than UNIFIL. |
| Posted by: liberalhawk 2006-08-08 13:40 |
| #10 They would there to protect the Hezbos from the Israelis. No? |
| Posted by: SamAdamsky 2006-08-08 11:52 |
| #9 The last UN peacekeeping force did absolutely nothing. In fact, they watched Hizb build bunkers and bring in missiles. So why do this again? The UN has the imagination and the will of a gunnysack of hammers. |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2006-08-08 10:44 |
| #8 Olmert demanded 15,000 combat troops to enforce Hizb'allah disarmament, and Israel holds the high ground in this negotiation, so long as they don't give in to the world. At this rate, it'll be years before they stop plowing Lebanon with missiles. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2006-08-08 09:36 |
| #7 "Stabilization force"? Stabilization isn't the question-UNIFIL was all about stability: the regional "stability" of hating Jews, the "stability" of not confronting Islamofascism in the form of Hezbollah. The $1m question-what will any one of these troops DO to those who violate the ceasefire? Australia looks like a good bet, but their presence is listed as "limited". |
| Posted by: Jules in the Hinterlands 2006-08-08 09:23 |
| #6 GERMANY ......... just reported in. 125 - Heeresgrukppe Kommandobehorden (-) 5,000 - Sicherung/Panzergrenadier Truppen 1,000 - Infanterie Truppen (Mountain Jager) 500 - Schnelle Truppen 100 - Pioniere Truppen 25 - Nachrichten Truppen 2 - Versrogung Truppen |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2006-08-08 07:15 |
| #5 Keep mulling. |
| Posted by: gromgoru 2006-08-08 06:37 |
| #4 Smell coming from aisle #2! Nuking preferable to Mr. Clean. |
| Posted by: twobyfour 2006-08-08 05:17 |
| #3 I am betting no one will commit troops on the ground until Hizb'allh is disarmed. Contingents form Muslim countries? They will co-opt in days. This "ceasefire" needs lots of work yet. |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-08-08 04:14 |
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| Posted by: T 2006-08-08 03:17 |
| #1 Lessee..should we or shouldn't we ? Uhhh, we'd like to, but we're busy. |
| Posted by: SOP35/Rat 2006-08-08 01:47 |