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| 2006-08-10 | |
| Three Egyptian students who were being sought for failing to turn up for an exchange program at Montana State University were taken into custody Wednesday, more than a week after they arrived in the United States. One student was arrested in Minnesota, and two others surrendered to authorities in New Jersey. They were among 11 students being sought by law enforcement after they failed to attend a monthlong program on the English language and U.S. history and culture in Bozeman, Mont., the FBI said. Eslam Ibrahim Mohamed El-Dessouki, 21, was taken into custody in Minneapolis on an immigration violation. Two other students - Mohamed Ragab Mohamed Abd Alla and Ebrahim Mabrouk Moustafa Abdou, both 22 - surrendered to police in Manville, N.J., after hearing media reports that they were wanted, FBI spokesman Steven Siegal said. Eight students remain at large. They arrived in New York on July 29 as part of a group of 17 students. Six students reported to Bozeman on time. Hamvi Kassab, a Minneapolis grocer who said he is El-Dessouki's uncle, told television station KSTP that his nephew was in town to visit relatives and to inquire about attending the University of Minnesota.
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| Posted by:trailing wife |
| #36 Ohh, muslims and muslim money launders. |
| Posted by: anonymous2u 2006-08-10 21:11 |
| #35 Just a comment, didn't these guys vanish about the time it's reported that the Brits made the first arrests that led to the arrests of the Pakistani would-be airplane bombers? In other words, they vanished right around the same time that the arrests first occured. I'd be turning over the rocky mountains right about now looking for these guys, the timing is fishy as hell. |
| Posted by: Redneck Jim 2006-08-10 19:21 |
| #34 OK, what's in Burbank, Illinois? |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2006-08-10 18:31 |
| #33 If he was caught in Burbank, IL, it would have really made sense..... |
| Posted by: anonymous2u 2006-08-10 18:03 |
| #32 So we have to ask, if Nazis were caught trying to get into the country during WWII would that be a downplayed story? Nazi saboteurs who landed on the east coast during WW II were executed. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2006-08-10 16:48 |
| #31 Hmm, anyone else notice that in two cases they were found in pairs? Two in Dundalk, two in NJ ... Wonder if there is another one someplace in Chi and one in Mpls that haven't been located yet. Odd to me that they should be keeping together in cells, uhm, I mean pairs. |
| Posted by: crosspatch 2006-08-10 16:25 |
| #30 Who the hell in their right mind at that school would let this camel turds into their program? All the schools, with exceptions you can count on one hand, are run and staffed by anti-American Tranzis who cater to the cash cow of foreigners. There are big, big bucks made there. And they are bigger whores than the oil companies when it comes to tuition. Just try to make visa processing rational and see who screams the loudest. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2006-08-10 16:17 |
| #29 Montana is middle America. Who the hell in their right mind at that school would let this camel turds into their program? How to keep them out... No answer. We are way to PC and they Muslims are taking full advantage of it. Whoever let them in to the Montana school should be fired. Fired. Some of you may remember this. After 9-11 14 Kuwaities (sp) disapeared from a Wisconsin university. The FBI showed up and the whole story was squashed. I happened to know because my aunt was working there in the personal office. She was told to keep hush about the whole story. So we have to ask, if Nazis were caught trying to get into the country during WWII would that be a downplayed story? No. Our Media is bent on seeing us all burn under a Muslim nuclear bomb. It's just a matter of time. |
| Posted by: Minnesota 2006-08-10 16:13 |
| #28 There needs to be some sort of credible deterrent with respect to individuals from suspect countries violating the terms of their visa. For instance, if we are still going to be so blindingly stupid as to permit these budding young terrorists into our country, we had better make them check in with authorities on a weekly basis using a fixed and traced landline to corroborate their reported geographical location. Or impose a substantial penalty for non-reporting or overstay, such as felony conviction and prolonged imprisonment. Better yet, a blanket prohibition of any future short term or immigration visas for themselves, all immediate family and even the most distant relations. This might have at least some deterrent value in that those who are honorably seeking to better their life would be held responsible for exactly which of their kin sets foot on our shores. I welcome any other suggestions from fellow Rantburgers regarding how to discourage these visa violations. Short of the logical solution of banning visitors from terrorist sponsoring or harboring countries, we must put in place better protections for the American people. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-08-10 15:40 |
| #27 Int'resting. And Dundalk (pronounced "Dun-dawk") is the residential section of the Port of Baltimore. |
| Posted by: Fred 2006-08-10 15:37 |
| #26 Oh I want to makke it clear that the second part of my previous post is a quote. My thoughts are rarely that organized. You will be pleased to note that as I sallied forth, there were lot's of Black Crown Vics w/ antennas and cars w/ Fed license plates cruising about. |
| Posted by: j. D. Lux 2006-08-10 15:06 |
| #25 2 apparently. The evidence that this is not coincidence is uh everywhere. MANVILLE. Cheez IF you were stuck at tghe airport and spoke only Arabic you'd end up in Jersey City not MAnville. But if you were proceeding to targets, then you're only 15 minutes from the heart of the Pharmaceutical industry, or going the other way, 15 minutes from BAyway. Largest petroleum facility west of SAudi. ew Jersey’s extensive chemical and petroleum facilities are widely recognized as potential targets for terrorist groups. Indeed, some experts refer to the two-mile stretch of the New Jersey Turnpike directly west of New York as “the most dangerous two miles in America.” The close proximity of some of the state’s chemical plants and refineries to the region’s airports, seaports, and major population centers are a major security concern. Similarly, a significant accident at one of the area’s chemical facilities could impact more than a million people within the region. |
| Posted by: j. D. Lux 2006-08-10 15:03 |
| #24 "like the old joke....just like a cueball?" The harder you hit them, the more English you get out of them! |
| Posted by: Threash Sloluper9361 2006-08-10 15:00 |
| #23 Q: How many 'students' does it take to take out a cellular tower / relay station / power feed? |
| Posted by: USN, ret. 2006-08-10 14:44 |
| #22 The most likely innocent explanation is illegal immigration. Get in on a student visa and disappear. Many thousands do it every year, from all third-world countries. Now, there may be additional information on this bunch that raises concern. |
| Posted by: buwaya 2006-08-10 14:27 |
| #21 Dundalk? No schools there. Perhaps they were waiting for their ship to come in. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2006-08-10 14:21 |
| #20 I just looked at the “Box Score” and it obvious to me that these poor lads are VICTIMS!! America is a BIG PLACE. Imagine landing in New York, asking someone: “Hey, where’s Montana??”. They give ya a funny look and point generally West. Maybe they're just LOST!! Empathy boys, empathy! |
| Posted by: Justrand 2006-08-10 14:16 |
| #19 I just noticed that the missing 5 are among the youngest of the group... |
| Posted by: BigEd 2006-08-10 13:40 |
| #18 BOX SCORE! |
| Posted by: BigEd 2006-08-10 13:38 |
| #17 like the old joke....just like a cueball? |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-08-10 13:05 |
| #16 The real question is why are we still giving out student visas? On Sept 12 that program should have been put on hiatus for the duration (along with the Saudi fast-past visa program and a dozen others). |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2006-08-10 13:00 |
| #15 My policeman son informs me that often they don't speak English until they're told they're going to jail. |
| Posted by: Fred 2006-08-10 12:26 |
| #14 Wait a sec - I think yesterday on TV, when they described how the two captured got separated at the airport, the guy who brought them to police said they don't speak English? Why then they were enlisted to go to a summer course in English literature? What language that course is in? |
| Posted by: Tat 2006-08-10 12:16 |
| #13 Kstp coverage of the story is a joke. This is the same station that took PR money from the Sauds after 9-1 and ran pro Arabia commercials. Do not trust these scum. The one post brings up a good point, I'd put the uncle in jail and sweat the diaper off his head. Minneapolis is full of Muslim terrorist sympathizers, I forget how many have been arrested here. We even had a van load of Muslims on 9-12 casing out one of our nuclear plants. This crap is scary and nether the MSM or the FBI come clean on this information. Because it would make the other followers of the Peophile for Profit look bad. Dhimmitue at its best. |
| Posted by: Minnesota 2006-08-10 12:06 |
| #12 Does anyone else notice that no one is smiling? Ya, go ahead let them in, they just want an education. More like on the job training as a terrorist. |
| Posted by: DESNC 2006-08-10 11:49 |
| #11 Students #9 and #11 have the innocent looks that only a public defender could love. Pardon me for profiling the lads.... |
| Posted by: Inspector Clueso 2006-08-10 11:44 |
| #10 I want to see the panties and the pliers accompanying this article. |
| Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 2006-08-10 11:39 |
#9  (Canada Free Press) Article 1. IBRAHIM, EL SAYED AHMED ELSAYED; DOB OF 4/29/1986, PASSPORT 954757 2. EL DESSOUKI, ESLAM IBRAHIM MOHAMED; DOB OF 02/21/1985, PASSPORT 1002756 3. EL BAHNASAWI, ALAA ABD EL FATTAH ALI; DOB OF 04/02/1986, PASSPORT 934679 4. ABD ALLA, MOHAMED RAGAB MOHAMED; DOB OF 02/15/1984, PASSPORT 860972 5. EL LAKET, AHMED REFAAT SAAD EL MOGHAZI; DOB OF 09/01/1986, PASSPORT 943306 6. EL ELA, AHMED MOHAMED MOHAMED ABOU; DOB OF 02/02/1985, PASSPORT 595081 7. EL MOGHAZY, MOHAMED IBRAHIM ELSAYED; DOB OF 08/08/1986, PASSPORT 861073 8. ABDOU, EBRAHIM MABROUK MOUSTAFA; DOB OF 02/25/1984, PASSPORT 828682 9. EL GAFARY, MOUSTAFA WAGDY MOUSTAFA; DOB OF 07/01/1988, PASSPORT 861673 10. MARAY, MOHAMED SALEH AHMED; DOB OF 09/12/1985, PASSPORT 862634 11. EL SHENAWY, MOHAMED IBRAHIM FOUAAD; DOB OF 08/12/1988, PASSPORT 862534 Note : #s 4,8 were the two found in NEW JERSEY... |
| Posted by: BigEd 2006-08-10 11:28 |
| #8 Any Islamic MAM (Military Age Male) should be closley scrutinized before entry and forced to wear a monitoring device during his hopefully very brief stay. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2006-08-10 11:08 |
| #7 What the hell are 22 yr old males doing studying english in the US? Isn't 22 yr olds getting out of shcool at this time (except for the professional students - pass the bong dude). Is it just me, or does this not scream why are 20, 21 and 22 year old men doing in our country "studying"? |
| Posted by: DESNC 2006-08-10 10:56 |
| #6 yer safe for the moment TW. »:-) |
| Posted by: RD 2006-08-10 10:56 |
| #5 This is page one stuff, TW, don't worry! |
| Posted by: Steve White 2006-08-10 09:34 |
| #4 Mea culpa. I did put in the link, but this is definitely mis-filed. P.2 WOT, I think. Sorry, mods! |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2006-08-10 08:23 |
| #3 I'd be talking to the Grocer and his relatives |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-08-10 08:22 |
| #2 Hamvi Kassab, a Minneapolis grocer who said he is El-Dessouki's uncle, told television station KSTP that his nephew was in town to visit relatives and to inquire about attending the University of Minnesota. And what else was he doing here? Come on, come clean. Are you certain he wasn't here to take flying lessons? |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2006-08-10 08:20 |
| #1 And still more: A total of 17 Egyptian students showed up at JFK International Airport on July 29, on their way to Bozeman. But only six made it to Bozeman. MSU then contacted federal authorities, and the 11 missing students' visas were revoked. All are young men, ages 17 to 22. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2006-08-10 08:20 |