You have commented 339 times on Rantburg.

Your Name
Your e-mail (optional)
Website (optional)
My Original Nic        Pic-a-Nic        Sorry. Comments have been closed on this article.
Bold Italic Underline Strike Bullet Blockquote Small Big Link Squish Foto Photo
India-Pakistan
Pakis induct first locally built submarine into fleet
2006-08-11
KARACHI, Pakistan - Pakistan’s navy on Thursday inducted its first locally built submarine in an effort to bolster its marine force, a spokesman said. Pakistan has already built two Agosta submarines with help from France, but “it is the first time that we completely built it ourselves without any foreign help,” said Salman Ali, spokesman for the navy.

Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf was the chief guest at the launching ceremony of the Hamza submarine near the port city of Karachi. Musharraf congratulated the naval officers, engineers and technicians over the induction of the submarine into the navy’s fleet and hoped that it will help to boost the country’s defenses. “Security and peace is only guaranteed through credible defense and strength and never through weakness,” Musharraf said while referring to the ongoing fighting between Israeli forces and Hezbollah militants in southern Lebanon.
Can't argue with Perv on that statement.
Posted by:Steve White

#17  Damn, you beat me to it, #11 doc! ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2006-08-11 18:53  

#16  With help from the French; hopefully not in the propeller-retention system. I am betting the glide ratio of an underwater (unpowered when it does fall off) brick isn't great, but the curve can be fairly well plotted.
Posted by: USN, ret.   2006-08-11 17:31  

#15  All seagoing vessels submerge... at least once :)
Posted by: CrazyFool   2006-08-11 15:20  

#14  Hey, Mushsharraf guy. It's just easier to say:

"Peace through strength", and my personal fave:

"Trust, but verify."
Posted by: BA   2006-08-11 15:03  

#13  "Will it submerge?"
"Oh yeah. Coming up again might be a problem, though."
Posted by: mojo   2006-08-11 10:30  

#12  Any truth to the rumor Clive Cussler funded the insurance program and has the Karlissa B. standing by down in Charleston harbor, just in case?
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-08-11 09:15  

#11  Where'd they stick the screen door?
Posted by: The Doctor   2006-08-11 08:39  

#10  Do you get the feeling Pakistan is becoming the job shop for Chinese prototyping and beta testing of stolen western designs?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-08-11 07:51  

#9  Or a sun roof?
Posted by: Cliger Elmeremble3688   2006-08-11 07:34  

#8  does it have power windows?
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2006-08-11 06:08  

#7  Yes, #5, the Agosta class is a good one BUT as the article made clear, this is the first all Paki built vessel. No way I would want to bet my life on the integrity of the welds done by a Paki shipyard.
Posted by: Shieldwolf   2006-08-11 05:33  

#6  ...kind of like giving the Aborogines a fleet of Ageis destroyers.
Posted by: Poison Reverse   2006-08-11 04:56  

#5  The problems will surface (pardon the pun) only after the sub's been run for a while. And it wasn't a Pak-only project; the French sent an engineering team (11 of whom were killled in an attack in Karachi back in 2002).

On paper, the Agosta seems okay. This last one also has air-independent propulsion. But a boat's only as good as its crew (and the builders) and the proof is gonna be if and when the design ever sees action.
Posted by: Pappy   2006-08-11 04:27  

#4  Umm, it is not the submerging part that I would be concerned with. I am quite certain that it can submerge very well -- the question is, can it surface after that?
Posted by: Shieldwolf   2006-08-11 02:11  

#3  Anyone had the courage to submerge for the first time ?
Posted by: SOP35/Rat   2006-08-11 01:23  

#2  Or Wrath of Allan(may his bilge be always dry), although I'm not sure there is room enough on the sail to paint the name.
Posted by: SteveS   2006-08-11 00:46  

#1  What'd you wanna bet that the name of this fine piece of Pakistani craftsmanship translates from Urdu into "The Widowmaker"? Or "Staring into the Face of Allah"?
Posted by: Dreadnought   2006-08-11 00:15  

00:00