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| UK Muslims: Give us Sharia and the Violence Will Stop |
| 2006-08-16 |
| Friend of mine sent me and article about this from a conservative news source. I didn't believe him, so I checked the Independent (far left for those of you who are unfamiliar with it). Here's their article. Muslim leaders have urged Ruth Kelly, the Secretary of State for Communities, to support Islamic family law in Britain to stop youths joining Islamic extremists. Following three hours of meeting with Muslim groups in Whitehall, Ms Kelly said: "There is a battle of hearts and minds to be won within the Muslim community, working with the Muslim community to take on the terrorist and extremist elements that are sometimes found within it, not just in the Muslim community, but elsewhere as well." See, it's all so reasonable. It's just "family law." John Prescott, the Deputy Prime Minister, who was also at the meeting, is today expected to meet Muslim Labour MPs who have demanded a change in Government foreign policy on the Middle East. Mr Prescott and Ms Kelly made it clear that the threat of terrorism could not be used to force a change of policy abroad. Ms Kelly said she did not accept that British foreign policy should be dictated by a small group of people. "What I do accept is that there is a lot of anger and frustration out there in the community that needs to be properly expressed and vented through the democratic process," she said. Dr Syed Aziz Pasha, secretary general of the Union of Muslim Organisations of the UK and Ireland, said he had asked for holidays to mark Muslim festivals and Islamic laws to cover family affairs which would apply only to Muslims. Dr Pasha said he was not seeking sharia law for criminal offences but he said Muslim communities in Britain should be able to operate Islamic codes for marriage and family life. "In Scotland, they have a separate law. It doesn't mean they are not part of the UK. We are asking for Islamic law which covers marriage and family life. We are willing to co-operate but there should be a partnership. They should understand our problems then we will understand their problems." No, not criminal offenses. Not at first anyway. It's all so reasonable. Just like Scotland, really. The camels nose is under the tent flap. I hope that someone is ready to smack it hard! |
| Posted by:11A5S |
| #18 Kill them all and there won't be any need for Sharia, and the violence will stop as well. Just a thought... |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2006-08-16 22:50 |
| #17 Whoa there, Frank. Your "sauce for the gander" stuff is dangerously close to that other mysterious and eternally incomprehensible Arab enigma, Cause & Effect. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-08-16 20:45 |
| #16 how about if we kufrs can execute (pun intended) Sharia law on Islamists, but they have to resort to western law onus? sounds fair to me. I'm starting a hand-sized-stone supply company soon as this gets the OK. They'll all be stamped with "Allahu Akhbar!" |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-08-16 20:38 |
| #15 Muslim leaders have urged Ruth Kelly, the Secretary of State for Communities, to support Islamic family law in Britain to stop youths joining Islamic extremists. Yep Chief, it's the nefarious "Install Islamic extremists to prevent Islamic extremists from taking power" plot. [/Maxwell Smart] Permit me to reply with a quote that is rather well-known, hereabouts. "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: When men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows.You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours." Charles James Napier |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-08-16 20:00 |
| #14 These people are Pakistanis or heavily influenced by them. Is there any wonder they seek separate family laws - they had them in India. That they have a "muslim parliament", that they seek a muslim state - partition? Pakistanis believe in the two nation theory - that muslims are a separate nation and islam cannot survive unless it is protected from the majority kaffirs. Hence the need for their own laws, and eventually their own state. |
| Posted by: john 2006-08-16 18:50 |
| #13 I no longer believe there's really any such thing as a "moderate Muslim"-- only Muslims who are overwhelmingly outnumbered by non-Muslims where they live. Let them comprise more than a few percent of the population, or let them congregate in enclaves, and they quickly become VERY un-moderate. |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2006-08-16 18:36 |
| #12 "There's nary an animal alive that can outrun a greased scotsman, laddie!" |
| Posted by: mojo 2006-08-16 17:29 |
| #11 I tend to look at things in terms of probabilities and vectors rather than poles, but I finally decided that if there are any moderate muslims, they of such little consequence that there is no practical way that they can influence the fight. Go to the link and you will see that the muslim Labourites in Parliament are bitching about UK foreign policy, too. |
| Posted by: 11A5S 2006-08-16 17:24 |
| #10 Easy fix. Send all muzzies back to their hell-holes of origin where the Sharia is in effect. Bu-buy. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2006-08-16 17:16 |
| #9 Give 'em an inch and they'll demand a mile. That's their nature but the dumb appeasenik multiculturalism simply cannot understand that. Since when has any other immigrants made any sinister demands anywhere close to theirs? |
| Posted by: Duh! 2006-08-16 16:20 |
| #8 These people are trouble-makers. Catch one making trouble, crush their right hand so it's unusable, and deny them any form of assistance. Make the rest of them support them. If anyone complains, break THEIR right hand. Sooner or later, they'll either assimilate or leave. It's either that or change the name of Great Britain to Dhimmi Britain. |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2006-08-16 16:15 |
| #7 I am pulling a figure out of memory and it could be very wrong. muslims make up about 3% of the UK population. They make more demands and trouble than that small percentage warrants. The Leftists BBC and UK MSM are largley responsible for this. Why do they have such a loud voice when they are a but a drop in the total population? Multiculti madness. Start deporting them if they want to live like they did in the 'old country' this dhimmi crap is just ignorant. |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-08-16 15:26 |
| #6 Muslims in France have a veto over that surrenderist entity's foreign policy. The greater the numbers, the more demands. Solution: send those subversives back where they came from. And make them take converts with them. |
| Posted by: Snease Shaiting3550 2006-08-16 15:17 |
| #5 We'll see, Frank. I fear all the sensible Scots emigrated a long time ago, leaving only the socialists, anti-nuke demonstrators and those with age-long grievances against the English ... not all that different from the "age-long" grievances of the Arabic world re: the West. I'd love to be wrong about that. |
| Posted by: lotp 2006-08-16 15:03 |
| #4 "They should understand our problems then we will understand their problems." I already know your problems. This is one of them. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2006-08-16 15:03 |
| #3 asking for a whacking are they? |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-08-16 14:55 |
| #2 scotland of course has laws that apply territorially, to all in Scotland, not different laws by personal status. note well - this request is NOT analogous to the Canadian one asking for recognition of VOLUNTARY agreement to settle dispute by Sharia, which was much like any private arbitration arrangement. This appears to be an attempt to bind ALL muslim citizens by muslim law, whether they will it or not. It is much more serious and of course quite unacceptable. I would suggest as a first response, that UMO no longer be considered an acceptable spokesperson for muslims in Britain. That the govt and patriotic British pols boycott UMO. |
| Posted by: liberalhawk 2006-08-16 14:34 |
| #1 The violence will stop even quicker when they are drawn and quartered, the traditional English punishment for traitors. Start with the self appointed muslim leaders and work down the org charts. |
| Posted by: ed 2006-08-16 14:29 |