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UK anti-terror police probing 'thousands' of suspects
2006-09-02
British police are currently trying to monitor "thousands" of potential security suspects, the head of the anti-terrorism unit at London's Metropolitan Police said in an interview to be broadcast Sunday. In an interview recorded in July, before the arrest of more than two dozen people on suspicion of an alleged plot to blow up US-bound aircraft, Peter Clarke said Britain was facing an increasing threat from homegrown extremists.

He refused to give an exact figure about how many people he said were either directly or indirectly involved in plotting atrocities on British soil but said the number ran into four figures. "I don't want to go down the numbers game, I don't think it's helpful," he told a BBC programme entitled "Al-Qaida -- Time to Talk?", to be shown Sunday evening. "All I can say is that our knowledge is increasing and certainly in terms of broad description, the numbers of people who we have to be interested in are into the thousands."
Posted by:Fred

#10  English feelings of pushback: Many feel threatened by Islam: poll
Most people in the UK feel threatened by Islam, a poll has revealed, after the Government launched a bid to tackle inter-faith tensions. The YouGov survey for the Daily Telegraph found 53% were concerned about the impact of the religion - not just fundamentalist elements - up 21% from 2001.

There had also been a near doubling of the number agreeing that "a large proportion of British Muslims feel no sense of loyalty to this country and are prepared to condone or even carry out acts of terrorism". A total of 18% backed the statement - compared with just one in 10 in the wake of the terrorist bombings in London last July.

And there was a seven point slump - to 16% - in those believing "practically all British Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding citizens who deplore terrorist acts as much as anyone else".
Posted by: ed   2006-09-02 17:08  

#9  And yes, I know I am naive, but I really think there is a silent minority that would love to be free of the overbearing fanatics.

I'm glad to see someone else take the taqiyyah issue seriously, tw. Beyond violent jihad, it poses the most fundamental stumbling block to resolving any issues with the world of Islam.

Sadly, while there may, indeed, be "a silent minority that would love to be free of the overbearing fanatics", they remain unwilling to rebel against their jihadist masters. Since this reticence also encompasses sufficient lack of concern for how their requisite monetary donations are spent, they become a serious part of the problem.

Additionally, because when any Muslim who accuses another Muslim of un-Islamic conduct, one of them must be found to be apostate (and thereby worthy of death), this utterly discourages any rebellion, even against the most virulent jihadist imams.

This inability to confront or report even the most poisonous dogma, just so long as it is directed against the kuffar and not Islam, is what continues to damn all Muslims, no matter how inobtrusive they might wish to be.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-02 17:05  

#8  July poll had 80% of muslims in Britain primary loyalty to the ummah, not Britain.
Posted by: ed   2006-09-02 17:03  

#7  Unfortunately there's the taqiyyah risk, Besoeker. Release only those who have paying jobs, can swear allegience to British law over Shariah while in a PET scan machine (which shows which parts of the brain are firing at the moment -- liars use a different part of the brain than truth tellers, even the trained ones), and are not in the habit of sending their children back to the old country for school or spouses.

Zenster, I think not more than two thirds would fail the test, especially of the older generation -- part of which came for the freedom of the West rather than the job opportunities -- and of the girls who just want to go to school and have fun like everyone else. And yes, I know I am naive, but I really think there is a silent minority that would love to be free of the overbearing fanatics.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-09-02 16:47  

#6  Could save a substantial amount of time and investigatory effort by declarling ALL of them guilty.... and releasing only those who renounce terrorism and swear allegiance to the crown. Deport the balance, and transport the loyal for new permanent residence in Blackpool via a London cab.
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-09-02 08:22  

#5  "... they will eventually end up detaining every single Muslim within their borders?"

Hardly a bad idea too if they ship them back from whence they came from, if these don't apostate. Someday, to save their own Civilization, this may have to happen. A Cult is hardly a Religion.
Posted by: Duh!   2006-09-02 07:26  

#4  I'll repeat; Does anyone get the feeling that, if British authorities follow up all leads in the airliner bombing case, they will eventually end up detaining every single Muslim within their borders?
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-02 02:14  

#3  As they sowed, so do they reap. Consequences are such a painful thing. I suspect a great many of the thousands will turn out to need expelling from the country.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-09-02 00:50  

#2  If you are cancer, -a general pain in the ass, expect an anal probe.
Posted by: newc   2006-09-02 00:49  

#1  Sounds like a probing job for a proctologist
Posted by: Captain America   2006-09-02 00:41  

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