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Resistance to Iran sanctions grows as powers meet
2006-09-08
BERLIN - The United States faced growing opposition on Thursday to its bid to persuade other powers to impose sanctions on Iran over its nuclear programme, with China urging dialogue and France signalling room for manoeuvre.

As top diplomats from six major powers met in Berlin to consider what steps to take after Iran ignored a UN Security Council deadline to stop sensitive nuclear work, China and France signalled they were focusing on diplomacy. “China advocates this issue be resolved through negotiation and dialogue in a peaceful way and this position remains unchanged,” said Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang.
Since negotiation and dialogue have been working so well ...
France suggested world powers may be flexible over an earlier demand that Iran suspend its uranium enrichment work before starting talks.
And no one knows flexibility better than the French ...
Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy said the timing of any suspension was crucial and that it could be discussed. “The question is to know at what point this suspension takes place in relation to the negotiations,” he told reporters. “It’s a major question .. which will perhaps emerge as important in the weeks ahead.”
Weeks? Optimist.
The comments highlighted the underlying differences as diplomats from Germany and the five permanent Security Council members -- the United States, Britain, France, Russia and China - met in the German capital.

China and Russia are reluctant to impose sanctions and question whether Tehran really poses a nuclear threat to the world as the United States and some of the EU believe. Washington hopes to persuade Russia and China to raise the pressure on the Islamic Republic by preparing to ask the UN Security Council to consider sanctions, diplomats from several countries to participate in the talks told Reuters.

Some, however, expressed doubt that Washington would succeed given opposition in European capitals, Moscow and Beijing. “There is no way the US is going to walk away with an agreement to impose sanctions on Iran,” said an EU diplomat from a country participating in the talks.
I think we pretty much know that. We have to do the dance and we have to get past the midterm election. Bush is then going to need to look at the intel to see how close the Persians are to the bomb and make some decisions.
Although Britain, France and Germany had led diplomatic efforts on behalf of the European Union, all 25 members’ views had to be taken into account at this stage, he said. “There is really no appetite for sanctions in the broader EU,” said the diplomat. “Not everybody is convinced that sanctions would even work,” noting the experience with Iraq.
And who would know about how sanctions get undermined better than the French? Well, okay the Russians.
Diplomats said Russia and China would probably want to know the outcome of a planned meeting between EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana and IranÂ’s chief nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani before discussing sanctions. EU diplomats said the aim was to find out if there was a chance Iran might halt enrichment work and begin negotiations on an offer of economic and political incentives the six powers made to Iran in June.
Yeah, Iran sure hasn't sent any signals about such a chance so far ...
One EU diplomat said the EU was hearing that Iran might be ready to suspend enrichment for a time, possibly a year or two, after any talks began. That could be acceptable to many EU countries, though probably not Britain.
Posted by:Steve White

#7  Nobody deserves something like Beslan. Nobody.
Posted by: Ulelet Uniting8249   2006-09-08 17:22  

#6  That any vetos will be remembered and their capitals targeted in the event of Iranian first-use.

You want to play games and create nuclear powers you must take responsibility for them. We expected no less of the Soviets, why should the French/Russian axis get off any differently.


Damn fine point, rjs. If these greedy mercenary f&cks have nothing better to do than breed up rogue nuclear powers, we need to make sure it bites them on the ass.

Were it not for the incredibly tragic loss of so many innocent children, I would say that, for the way Russia facilitates Iran's nuclear aspirations, they deserved Beslan.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-08 15:02  

#5  Let the Security Council know we are putting sanctions up for a vote. That any vetos will be remembered and their capitals targeted in the event of Iranian first-use.

You want to play games and create nuclear powers you must take responsibility for them. We expected no less of the Soviets, why should the French/Russian axis get off any differently.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2006-09-08 09:46  

#4  Agreed, Zenster. It won't be passsed off, IMO. We didn't really expect that Russia or China would actually like keep their word or anything. Never in the cards.

He repeated the fact that Iran must not have nukes, yesterday. Since he has not recanted the message or softened in any way, but quite the opposite - reiterating that blunt statement several times recently, I'd say he's preparing the ground with the public and the Congress. His intent is crystal clear. The applause today for that line was resounding, so I think the public is getting it. As usual, it will eventually come down to the Seditious Senate, and we can help with that, assuming we get off our collective ass and bombard our Senators with our demands - and vote to back them up. It's put up or shut up time.

I'd like to say to the boneheads who talk about sitting out November that they're no different than the most insane moonbats, in effect. I do not appreciate their desire to prove how juvenile they can be by taking the rest of us down with them when they throw their tantrums. Infantile asstards.
Posted by: flyover   2006-09-08 04:40  

#3  This is almost better. Yesterday's article speculated that the other major UNSC players would push for sanctions in order to pre-empt America's options for military intervention.

By scrubbing any chance of sanctions, this opens the door wide for US to bomb the living crap out of the mullahs and their bad boy toys.

I'm willing to let Bush wait for his chance to act until after the November elections. That's his call and he's entitled to it. After spilling so much American blood fighting his "Axis of Evil" he'd damn well better be ready to make good on his pronouncements and not let this dilemma carry over to another administration's agenda.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-08 02:44  

#2  "France signalling room for manoeuvre." You mean manure? If we lose 650,000 people for a manoeuvre, may as well lose france as bullshit.

Bitch, listen to me. You do not like me, but this is necessary.

You continue to screw me and screw with my Jews. You are dammned this time. I will not lift a finger.

JEW JEW, VE VE.
P.S., you are nasty antisemetic pussies.

THROW DOWN THE COWS!!!
Posted by: newc   2006-09-08 01:14  

#1  WW II, The sequel.
Posted by: gorb   2006-09-08 01:03  

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