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Iraq
Tortured screams ring out as Iraqis take over Abu Ghraib
2006-09-10
HT to Drudge - Note Obligatory Lynndie England leash photo in post....kinda puts things in perspective.
The notorious Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad is at the centre of fresh abuse allegations just a week after it was handed over to Iraqi authorities, with claims that inmates are being tortured by their new captors.

Staff at the jail say the Iraqi authorities have moved dozens of terrorist suspects into Abu Ghraib from the controversial Interior Ministry detention centre in Jadriyah, where United States troops last year discovered 169 prisoners who had been tortured and starved.

An independent witness who went into Abu Ghraib this week told The Sunday Telegraph that screams were coming from the cell blocks housing the terrorist suspects. Prisoners released from the jail this week spoke of routine torture of terrorism suspects and on Wednesday, 27 prisoners were hanged in the first mass execution since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's regime.

Conditions in the rest of the jail were grim, with an overwhelming stench of excrement, prisoners crammed into cells for all but 20 minutes a day, food rations cut to just rice and water and no air conditioning.

Some of the small number of prisoners who remained in the jail after the Americans left said they had pleaded to go with their departing captors, rather than be left in the hands of Iraqi guards.

"The Americans were better than the Iraqis. They treated us better," said Khalid Alaani, who was held on suspicion of involvement in Sunni terrorism.

Abu Ghraib became synonymous with abuse after shocking pictures were published in 2004 showing prisoners being tortured and humiliated, galvanising opposition to the US presence in Iraq.

The witness gained access to the prison just days after the Americans formally handed over control to the Iraqi authorities on Sept 1.

Inside the 100-yard long cell block the smell of excrement was overpowering. Four to six prisoners shared each of the 12ft by 15ft cells along either side and the walls were smeared with filth. The cell block was patrolled by guards who carried long batons and shouted angrily at the prisoners to stand up.

Access to the part of the prison containing terrorism suspects was denied, but from that block came the sound of screaming. The screaming continued for a long time.

"I am sure someone was being beaten, they were screaming like they were being hit," the witness reported. "I felt scared, I was asking what was happening in the terrorist section.

"I heard shouting, like someone had a hot iron on their body, screams. The officer said they were just screaming by themselves. I was hearing the screams throughout the visit."

The witness said that even in the thieves' section prisoners were being treated badly. "Someone was shouting 'Please help us, we want the human rights officers, we want the Americans to come back'," he said.

Prisoners interviewed in the presence of their jailers said they were frightened for their safety. They complained that chicken and milk had been cut from their rations, leaving them on rice and water. They also complained about the oppressive heat.

Outside the prison, relatives of some of the inmates said they were being tortured by their captors. One woman, who gave her name as Omsaad, said: "My son Saad [who was arrested in Fallujah as a suspected insurgent] said he is being tortured by the Iraqis to confess the name of his leader. I met my son and he told me they were being treated badly by the Iraqis."

Haleem Aleulami, who was released from the jail last week, three weeks after being arrested in Ramadi for carrying a pistol in his car, said the Americans had treated him better when they ran the jail. He claimed that visits from the International Red Cross staff had dried up and accused local human rights workers of being members of Shia groups who turned a blind eye to problems in the jail.

"The people are Iraqis and they are members of the Sciri and al Dawa parties. They have a good relationship with the leaders of the jail and they keep quiet," he said. The guards swore at the ordinary prisoners, he said, but those in the terrorist section were treated more brutally.

"The guards were swearing at us, but in the terrorist section they were beating them. I heard it all the time. Everyone knows what is happening."

And Khalid Alaani, who was also picked up in Ramadi suspected of involvement in Sunni terrorism, said: "We preferred the Americans. We asked to move with them to Baghdad airport because we knew the treatment would be changed because we know what the Iraqis are. When the Americans left everything changed."

Staff at the jail said that the prisoners were allowed out from their cells for only 15 to 20 minutes a day because of the danger from the regular mortar attacks. They are no longer allowed access to the main hall where the Americans had allowed them to watch television and the room is now reserved for the use of officers and guards. Staff explained that the air conditioning in the cell blocks had broken, although it was working in their quarters.

One officer, Capt Ali Abdelzaher, said: "We have a problem with the financing for the food, not like the Americans, and there is a technical problem with the air conditioning."

Capt Abdelzaher also confirmed that a number of inmates had been transferred from the Jadriyah detention centre, along with their guards and interrogators.

Graphic stories of abuse at that previously secret facility emerged after US soldiers found 169 prisoners showing signs of torture last November.

Most of the prisoners held by the Americans at Abu Ghraib were either released in recent months or transferred to a new £32 million detention centre at Camp Cropper near Baghdad International Airport.

Yesterday, the International Red Cross confirmed that its visits to the prison had been suspended since January 2005 on security grounds.
Posted by:Frank G

#23  Some of the small number of prisoners who remained in the jail after the Americans left said they had pleaded to go with their departing captors, rather than be left in the hands of Iraqi guards.

"The Americans were better than the Iraqis. They treated us better," said Khalid Alaani, who was held on suspicion of involvement in Sunni terrorism.


How many of these suddenly pro-American prisoners were the ones screaming about abuse when they were being given panty-hats? How many of them were fabricating abuse stories for the media to make America look bad?

Suffer you d@mn fools and suffer like you never have before! You cannot kill each other fast enough. What do you think would happen if you brought to an end all American oversight of the prison? That every cell would be unlocked and the front gates left standing open?

These wastes of skin truly are beyond salvation. Even if the inmates were running the asylum, the results would be the exact same and this says it all. FOAD, morons.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-10 17:58  

#22  "Abu Ghraib became synonymous with abuse after shocking pictures were published in 2004 showing prisoners being tortured and humiliated, galvanising opposition to the US presence in Iraq."
No, what's happening now is torture and humiliation.
Posted by: plainslow   2006-09-10 17:42  

#21  The tin foil hatters can't hear 'em screams now even if they live next doors while they can hear the same across oceans previouly when AG was under US control.
Posted by: Duh!   2006-09-10 17:26  

#20  Here's another recent gem from the Telegraph 8 Sept 06
The brutal excesses of Saddam Hussein's regime were relived yesterday as Iraq's new government announced that it had hanged 27 prisoners convicted of terror and criminal charges...The government's media office later confirmed that the sentences had been carried out on Wednesday. It also called the prisoners "terrorists", a name normally reserved for insurgents...The death penalty is overwhelmingly supported by the Iraqi public, particularly as punishment for those who commit insurgent atrocities.
The article put no stress on the truly massive numbers of kidnappings and murders happening in Iraq daily.
Posted by: Ulelet Uniting8249   2006-09-10 17:22  

#19  the Telegraph and western MSM in general have perfected the black arts of tortured 'news' to record levels.
Posted by: RD   2006-09-10 15:02  

#18  "Abu Ghraib became synonymous with abuse after shocking pictures were published in 2004 showing prisoners being tortured and humiliated, galvanising opposition to the US presence in Iraq."

And this from the Telegraph, not even the Grauniad. That such outrageous, and patently inaccurate, crap can be put into any serious newspaper indicates little hope for western media.

Posted by: Verlaine in Iraq   2006-09-10 14:56  

#17  Pretty grisly but this kind of thing will take some steam out of the insurgency. Your average terrorist sympathizer or helper isn't going to want any part of "Abu Grab your ..."
Posted by: Intrinsicpilot   2006-09-10 14:54  

#16  Let's see now. How about lining up a few volunteer prisoners at Abu Ghraib and at Guantanamo and ask who wants to trade places.
Posted by: GK   2006-09-10 14:32  

#15  
Posted by: Scooter McGruder   2006-09-10 13:55  

#14  Similarly, you never hear about the conditions inside Castro's prisons, yet Gitmo is supposed to be another gulag.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2006-09-10 13:44  

#13  As my dad would of said to the prisioners and the leftwingers about Abu Ghraib, "Becareful what you wish for, you just might get it"
Just looks like Iraq's taking over, just like they all wanted.
Posted by: plainslow   2006-09-10 13:29  

#12  and the walls were smeared with filth

Nail your fecses to the wall - live with it.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412   2006-09-10 13:22  

#11  #10 - do we have to choose?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2006-09-10 13:08  

#10  Whatever happens in Iraq, no matter who does it, will be reported as bad news for the next 20 years. By contrast nothing that happens in places like Iran, Syria, Cuba or other left wing paradises will ever be news.

So which is worse, the lying or the hypocrisy?
Posted by: Iblis   2006-09-10 13:04  

#9  My only objection would be that if they are torturing prisoners, it obviously indicates that their judicial system has an acute shortage of hemp rope.

Were they to match that 27 hung on a bi-weekly basis, in little as a year, their society would be much improved.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2006-09-10 12:39  

#8  :-) fair enuf
Posted by: Frank G   2006-09-10 12:31  

#7  No one seemed to mind Abu Ghraib much when Saddam ran the place. But I'm sure back then all the prisoners sat around eating cucumber sandwiches with the crust cut off.
Posted by: SteveS   2006-09-10 12:28  

#6  "watch a full Sunday of NFL."

You've confirmed my thoughts about you Frank, whahahhaa.
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-09-10 12:26  

#5  I find the squeals of "insurgents" to be guarded by the awful infidel Americans particularly ironic. I have no doubt awful things are happening to people who wantonly massacred other Iraqis, Brits, and Americans. Somehow, I'll still be able to watch a full Sunday of NFL, drink beer and snark RB without shedding a tear. Call me cynical
Posted by: Frank G   2006-09-10 12:22  

#4  Right!
Posted by: Hupaimble Snereper9861   2006-09-10 12:20  

#3  Who cares? It's a part of their culture, and it's rather arrogant for us to even show disapproval, right?
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2006-09-10 12:16  

#2  Article: Prisoners interviewed in the presence of their jailers said they were frightened for their safety.

This is really silly. Prisoners whose safety is in danger do not complain to journalists. That can mean a one-way ticket to a shallow grave. People in Saddam's Iraq certainly avoided saying anything bad about the government.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2006-09-10 12:02  

#1  and there is a technical problem with the air conditioning." .... fuzes keep blowing when we flip on the interrogation chairs.

I blame Lindy England.
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-09-10 12:01  

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