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| Krauthammer: US War With Iran Within A Year |
| 2006-09-15 |
| In his televised Sept. 11 address, President Bush said that we must not "leave our children to face a Middle East overrun by terrorist states and radical dictators armed with nuclear weapons." There's only one such current candidate: Iran. The next day, he responded thus (as reported by Rich Lowry and Kate O'Beirne of National Review) to a question on Iran: "It's very important for the American people to see the president try to solve problems diplomatically before resorting to military force." "Before" implies that the one follows the other. The signal is unmistakable. An aerial attack on Iran's nuclear facilities lies just beyond the horizon of diplomacy. With the crisis advancing and the moment of truth approaching, it is important to begin looking now with unflinching honesty at the military option... |
| Posted by:Anonymoose |
| #20 The Islamofascists can't help it -- they will keep constructing incidents to terrorize us, and with each incident more and more people will realize what we here already do. Watch the American elections in November, anon1. *If* I'm right, the attempted highjackings out of England will have turned the tide here enough that even Dave D. will feel more slightly more comfortable about the future. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2006-09-15 23:55 |
| #19 The problem is, though, is that the Muzzies are right. We have the capability but not the will. Rantburgers have the will. Prez Bush has the will. But large numbers of people don't have the will and Europe doesn't have the will. And the struggle of Prez Bush to lead is to try to get these people on board before we attack because if you attack without majority support you end up with the vietnam phenomenon of mass demonstrations. A nation divided in opinion cannot succeed at war despite military superiority, and that's the weakness the Muzzies have played on for years. THe only solution is to crank up the war propaganda machine. It is necessary in times of war. You have to get the civilians behind you. We need to chuck out the multi culti rhetoric and get behind a unified banner, need to publicise the attrocities of our enemies and flatter our own troops. It sounds bad but there it is: it was needed in World War I and II. Without the propaganda effort the people at home wouldn't have had the stomach for the sacrifices required to win. That is where we are failing at the moment. ONce we win that the rest is a military piece of cake. The real threat looming on the horizon in terms of military conflict is China. |
| Posted by: anon1 2006-09-15 23:46 |
| #18 "1000 Planes Raid" > iff memory is correct, zabout WW2 + Allied effort to intensify DAYLIGHT BOMBING over Europe - read, mostly American bombers andor Brits wid mostly American fighter protection. Geez, I thimk the last time Hollyweird showed this flick on TV [on Guam anyways] was in the mid-1970's. |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2006-09-15 22:02 |
| #17 Ya know I don't want to do that either but Sherry's scenario is attractive. Really I'm thinking we need to insult them. Tell them they really aren't even good enough for the new stuff. F-15's, B-52's SAC-Era megatonnage. Couple drops and the message that we might repeat as necessary. Just as a demonstration, of course. |
| Posted by: J.D. Clampet 2006-09-15 18:30 |
| #16 "The only thing that will actually pursuade them is if we actually turn whole cities to rubble, bounce it, and make them clean up the mess -- as a demonstration, I mean." At this late date, that's probably what it would take-- at least. And that's if they can be persuaded at all. Just as likely, I fear, is that the Muslim world will push and push and push, harder and harder, without adequate response from us until finally they do something to us so heinous that we decide to terminate them en masse. I don't want to do that. I really, really don't. But if that's the only thing that will work, then so be it. |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2006-09-15 17:37 |
| #15 Oh! I assumed Sherry meant with a sampling of the live ordnance delivered by each plane. You know - MOAB's from the C-130's, iron bombs from the BUFF's, JDAM's from the B-1's and who-knows-what from the B-2's. The fighters were to demonstrate the folly of sending their pathetic excuse for an air force up into the sky. Did I get that wrong, Sherry? |
| Posted by: Bobby 2006-09-15 16:08 |
| #14 Such a show of force would work for Westerners, Sherry; but not in the Muslim world, where they believe fully that we have the capability, and equally fully that we haven't the intestinal fortitude to ever actually use even a part of our full strength. The only thing that will actually pursuade them is if we actually turn whole cities to rubble, bounce it, and make them clean up the mess -- as a demonstration, I mean. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2006-09-15 15:04 |
| #13 It is very difficult to make nuclear weapons without electricity. Destroy the dams, power plants, tranmission lines, generators, etc and let the mullahs party like it is 632. Take out the petrol too and it will get very dark in the heart of darkness. |
| Posted by: RWV 2006-09-15 12:33 |
| #12 Please bring Pakistan into the picture too once Iran sorted!!!! |
| Posted by: Gliper Phereck2334 2006-09-15 11:47 |
| #11 Yeah, put on a nice show for 'em! That would turn some heads. |
| Posted by: ex-lib 2006-09-15 11:14 |
| #10 Faster please. |
| Posted by: wxjames 2006-09-15 09:58 |
| #9 Don't know if it will happen within a year, but I've no doubt it will happen. When it does, It's obvious that Iran's industrial infrastructure is a sitting duck. I'm for killing the duck. |
| Posted by: mcsegeek1 2006-09-15 09:14 |
| #8 Sherry...the ordnance on B-1's, B-2's, and the good old Buffs would stagger you. No need to involve the tactical aircraft. |
| Posted by: anymouse 2006-09-15 05:05 |
| #7 If the MMs don't come to the party soon, I'd rather see Bush do the kickoff with Iran than wait for whoever comes next, who would have to give them the necessary grace period in which they would put together a few nukes. Combining Iran and Iraq under one roof will take a lot more troops, but perhaps we could use Iraqis by then. |
| Posted by: gorb 2006-09-15 04:02 |
| #6 Gotta put the hurt on Tater and tots in the interim |
| Posted by: Captain America 2006-09-15 02:47 |
| #5 The hammer is tracking right on schedule...T-3 months (right after elections) and counting. |
| Posted by: Captain America 2006-09-15 02:46 |
| #4 Read here in the Burg somewhat earlier in this day, or yesterday, how about a low level flying formation of B1's, B52's, F22's, B2's, F15,16 18's (sorry guys, I love the airplanes but don't always know the names). Always slept through the end of the movie, but there is one, "Thousand Planes Raid." Heh -- Can see it now. Cruising across this troubled area known as the Middle East, our pilots and her/his team in all branches, flying in tight formation, cruising low, showing off in spectacle form, their flying skills. I got to believe, our pilots would view this as "spring break." Just doing my thing. Regardless of where I lived, if I heard this incredible noise coming from the sky, and looked up, to see formation after formation of planes moving across my sky, I just might have the same feelings I had on 911, until, I spotted those USA markings. Our enemy believes in a show of force. Maybe we could just kinda do a demo for them. |
| Posted by: Sherry 2006-09-15 02:23 |
| #3 Gotta agree with you, 'mouse. Iran's overwhelming dependence upon imports of refined gasoline is their glass jaw. Choke that off and their entire economy, including a lot of the equipment needed to drive their nuclear program, all grinds to a halt. My only dispute with what you suggest is that we must also target the mullahs as well. If we can nail a majority of them and, perhaps, some of the basij civilian control brigades, then the Iranian people might have a chance to retake their government. No matter what, the mullahs' private residences need to be blown off of the map as a message of just how fragile their position is. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-09-15 01:28 |
| #2 I'd love to live in a world ruled by Rantburgers. |
| Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) 2006-09-15 00:49 |
| #1 For the umpteenth time (+ 1): Launch a 100 or so TLAMS along with a handful of sorties of our strategic fixed wings, and wipe out Iran's gasoline terminals and refineries. Case closed on Iran. |
| Posted by: anymouse 2006-09-15 00:24 |