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Caribbean-Latin America
Mexico's Calderon Rips Border Wall Plan
2006-09-26
MEXICO CITY (AP) - Mexican President-elect Felipe Calderon on Monday slammed U.S. plans to build more fences on its southern border, saying it would not solve illegal immigration. ``We are worried ... about the actions that the United States is discussing concerning building a border wall and tightening restrictions on migrants,'' Calderon said after meeting with Mexico's foreign secretary.
We like you, Felipe, and we prefer you to the other guy, but we're still building the fence.
President Vicente Fox, of Calderon's conservative National Action Party, has called the plans ``shameful'' and said the fence would be like the Berlin Wall. Calderon succeeds Fox on Dec. 1.

There are an estimated 11 million Mexicans in the United States, about half of whom are illegal. Last year, Mexican migrants sent home more than $20 billion in remittances.
That's what it's all about from the Mexican side, the remittances and the relief of social pressure.
Posted by:Steve White

#31  Absolutely nothing, Nimble, But having no coups for the better part of a century puts them far up in my book.
Posted by: Eric Jablow   2006-09-26 21:19  

#30  I want to make it abundantly clear that Felipe Calderon has absolutely no relation to me!

Besides, my Hispanic ancestry comes via pre-Castro Cuba ... and I was born in the USA (Miami, sometimes known as Havana Norte).
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden   2006-09-26 20:45  

#29  True, Eric. What do you know about their legal system?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-09-26 19:07  

#28  #16 a2u,

Costa Rica isn't bad. That's because they got rid of their army after one of their dictators was deposed 60 years ago; they haven't missed it.
Posted by: Eric Jablow   2006-09-26 18:35  

#27  More like the Great Wall. Built to keep people out, not imprison people like the Berlin wall.
Posted by: mojo   2006-09-26 17:52  

#26  And we should be helping. And not the 40.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-09-26 17:29  

#25  -- Look guys, about 40 family groups in Mexico own around 60 percent of the place. They are going to do nothing to jeapordize their power. Period. --

And none of them are history majors.

Louie and the Romanovs come to mind.
Posted by: anonymous2u   2006-09-26 17:19  

#24  Portugal also had Angola, Madagascar and Macao. Not a great track record. As I linked the other day, the key event is the faithful adoption of common law.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-09-26 14:52  

#23  In almost as bad a mess as those colonized by Belgium. Only Brazil (Portuguese colony) seems to be doing ok, and that's probably because I'm missing something.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-09-26 14:15  

#22  Is every country formerly colonized by Spain and or frogistan a mess?????

Yes.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-09-26 12:04  

#21  BH: but are the sea bass disgruntled?
Posted by: Frank G   2006-09-26 11:36  

#20  Yep, I want the Great Wall of the Rio Grande, along w/a moat and a mine field, alligators, crocodiles, and evil sea bass w/mounted lasers on their heads.

To all illegals - stay the f*ck out of my country - go start a revolution and fix your own. It's more than security it's called sovereignty.
Posted by: Broadhead6   2006-09-26 11:31  

#19  wow! only a week or so in certification and already he's earned a STFU
Posted by: Frank G   2006-09-26 10:28  

#18  I wheel order the catapults to the border.
Posted by: calderon   2006-09-26 10:18  

#17  Ask the dumbasses who bitch about the fence if they have a door on their house.
Posted by: Angimble Whonter6983   2006-09-26 10:11  

#16  Is every country formerly colonized by Spain and or frogistan a mess?????



I'm starting to say, i't not my fault you were colonized by the Brits.

At least you'd have a chance.........

India finally got it.
Posted by: anonymous2u   2006-09-26 10:01  

#15  It's so annoying when people speak of walls meant to keep people in (berlin wall) as if they are the same moral equivalent of walls meant to keep people OUT (israel's wall, mexican border fence).
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American   2006-09-26 09:13  

#14  Look guys, about 40 family groups in Mexico own around 60 percent of the place. They are going to do nothing to jeapordize their power. Period. Dump the unemployed upon the US, play the victim game, whatever. The country with an abundent supply of natural resources and agricultural bounty is like number eleven in the world in GDP. South Korea which was leveled in a war less than fifty years ago, which has neither the vast resources or agricultural lands, is number thirteen. For the ruling strata of Mexican politics, everything is legit to retain and remain in power. There will be no reform. Corruption is there to stay. So the people are screwed. There is not going to be a domestic uprising. So its time to just blow off relations with the government. Building the wall will only work if there is will in Washington, and the reality is that both parties have blown us off. One doesn't want to and the other only wants to make motions to placate the unwashed masses they need to vote in November. Like the Mexican obero, we too are screwed.
Posted by: Elmeque Elmaiting8004   2006-09-26 09:04  

#13  saying it would not solve illegal immigration.

Throwing those Lucky Strikes ciggies into the rubbish won't cure cancer either, but it's a damn fine first step.
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-09-26 08:05  

#12  Well, it's because the third worlders have a *right* to migrate into/settle/invade/colonize the West, dont you know?

This is based on the narrative propaged by the marxists (neo and gramscists), IE the West has a debt toward the "brown people" who are poor and unsuccessful because they were deprived of what's their by the colonizers/imperialists/capitalists (and still are, of course).

And while the West (and its White Male Westerner embodiment) will *never* be able to repay this forever debt, the natural compensation is to let itself be dissolved through the settlement of the Poor People of the South... hence the right to colonize.

And the perverse thing is, this narrative pushed by the whole cultural marxists apparatus is in total symbiosis with the own resentment and envy of the third worlders; their resentment meets our guilt (with islam often being the flagbearer of this resentment, and it will more and more), a match made in Hell.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-09-26 08:04  

#11  And minefields on the Mexico side.

What a bunch of fuckwhits.
Posted by: phil_b   2006-09-26 07:55  

#10  So is Mexico going to shoot anyone trying to cross the wall?
Posted by: Glenmore   2006-09-26 07:16  

#9  He's right, it would be like the Berlin Wall; ugly modern and insignificant. We need something like the Great Wall of China. A structure to last, able to support an M1A1, visible from Mars, no gaps, effective.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-09-26 06:55  

#8  It would be like the Berlin Wall if Mexico built the wall to keep their citizens in the country.
Posted by: phil_b   2006-09-26 04:36  

#7  So, they're going to open up THEIR southern border now, right?

*crickets*

Oh.
Posted by: JSU   2006-09-26 04:01  

#6  Crackdown on remittances like Arizona is doing, and hear the screams and squeals all the way to the Arctic Circle! Dollars from El Norte is the only thing keeping half of Mexico afloat; and the other half is headed our way, unfortunately. That is why we need, in order, the following : 1) the Wall to prevent illegal crossings; 2) Crackdowns on remittances, and 3) more and much harder illegal sweeps/deportations. The remittance crackdown will cause a couple of million illegals to head back home with their money in the form of fixed goods like cars and appliances, by itself. Because the illegals are not stupid, if they are going to lose it to the US, they would rather take the bird in the hand back home and live off of it.
Posted by: Shieldwolf   2006-09-26 02:45  

#5  So he's complaining that we're keeping in the people who sent back $20 billion last year????


??????
Posted by: anonymous2u   2006-09-26 02:03  

#4  ...would be like the Berlin Wall.

Moonbat "logic" in a nutshell.
Posted by: PBMcL   2006-09-26 01:46  

#3  "called the plans [to build a wall at the border] 'shameful'"

No, assholes, shameful is a so-called country (that would be you, Mexico) with an acknowledged policy of urging its citizens to break another country's laws in order to earn money because you're too lazy/greedy/stupid to encourage employment in your own country.

Anyone with one iota of self-respect would be ashamed of your official "jobs" program.

Get over yourselves, give up the graft and greed, and get your own economy running - just like any adult country is supposed to.

You're obviously Leftists. You're acting like spoiled children, sponging off the rich "uncle" (who isn't actually a relation) next door, instead of getting off your dead asses and making your own way in the world.

Pfui.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2006-09-26 00:53  

#2  And what does that make Mexico?

Union of Mexicana Burritocrats
Posted by: RD   2006-09-26 00:40  

#1  President Vicente Fox... said the fence would be like the Berlin Wall.

And what does that make Mexico?
Posted by: Pappy   2006-09-26 00:15  

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