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NASA to limit co-operation with ChinaÂ’s space program
2006-09-26
China is making “enormous strides” in advancing its space programme over a short period of time but the likelihood of any significant co-operation with the US over the near-term is slim, the top US space official said on Monday. “We were very impressed with what we saw,” Michael Griffin, head of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (Nasa), said after meetings with China’s top space authorities. “[And] we have seen only a portion of the overall programme.”

His comments signify that China, only the third nation to put a human into orbit, is determined to continue investing vast human and financial resources into space-related projects, which BeijingÂ’s leaders view as a barometer of scientific progress.

Mr Griffin, the first Nasa administrator to visit China, said US and Chinese space officials have only been working together on data sharing and climate research. There were no immediate plans for bilateral co-operation on manned flights or space station projects but the possibility remained, he said.

“We do desire to have a closer relationship with China,” said Mr Griffin, who met Sun Laiyan, his Chinese counterpart at the China National Space Administration, and toured the country’s main space technology academy. Mr Griffin said one of the main hindrances to Sino-US space co-operation has been the fact that China’s space programme is backed the military. He also said China’s controls of missile technology – criticised by Washington as being insufficient – as a sticking point.
Which means we'd be nuts to have any meaningful cooperation with the Chinese space program. Far better to do the occasional visit and learn what we can about their capabilities.
The Nasa delegation insisted the visit to China has been exploratory. US officials saw some new aerospace facilities but did not go to the mission command centre on the outskirts of the capital. But the few foreigners who have visited the inside of China’s space facilities have come away impressed. “It was a lot newer and nicer than I expected,” said one US official who was taken on a rare tour of a launch site in western China earlier this year. “It was absolutely spotless.”
Posted by:Steve White

#5  While China is following the "government path" trodden by the US and USSR, the private sector is quietly working to develop innovative and inexpensive alternatives (e.g., the recent X prize winner). Go market!
Posted by: Spot   2006-09-26 08:25  

#4  Moon trivia:

During the Yuan dynasty (A.D.1280-1368) China was ruled by the Mongolian people. Leaders from the preceding Sung dynasty (A.D.960-1280) were unhappy at submitting to foreign rule, and set how to coordinate the rebellion without it being discovered. The leaders of the rebellion, knowing that the Moon Festival was drawing near, ordered the making of special cakes. Backed into each moon cake was a message with the outline of the attack. On the night of the Moon Festival, the rebels successfully attacked and overthrew the government. What followed was the establishment of the Ming dynasty (A.D. 1368-1644). Today, moon cakes are eaten to commemorate this legend.
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-09-26 08:10  

#3  Who gives a f&ck about their ground based facilities? How many capsules make it into orbit and send back useful data? How many spam-in-a-can cosmonauts make it back alive? How many years will it take China to do more than hurl some meat into orbit? That's what counts and using old outdated Soviet designs tells a lot about where China is headed.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-26 06:50  

#2  That's $50 a month per person, of course. They work cheap, but not that cheap.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2006-09-26 00:18  

#1  Article: “It was a lot newer and nicer than I expected,” said one US official who was taken on a rare tour of a launch site in western China earlier this year. “It was absolutely spotless.”

From someone who been to China more than once, I can tell you that the spotlessness isn't such a big deal. They hire armies of cleaning staff for about $50 a month and have them cleaning up. The cleaning staff work quick and sloppy, but when they're doing it day in and day out 250 days a year, of course it's spotless.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2006-09-26 00:17  

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