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Iraq
Qaeda in Iraq seeks Western hostages to free Omar Abdel-Rahman
2006-09-29
Al Qaeda's leader in Iraq called for the kidnapping of Westerners to swap for a Muslim cleric jailed in the United States, according to an Internet audio tape issued on Thursday while at least 22 people were killed in separate incidents of violence across Iraq.

"I call on every holy fighter in Iraq to strive during this holy month (Ramazan)... to capture some dogs of the Christians so that we can liberate our imprisoned sheikh," said the speaker, identified as Abu Hamza al-Muhajir. He accused US jailers of "torturing" Egyptian cleric Omar Abdel-Rahman, held over links to the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center in New York. The speaker also called for attacks on US military camps in Iraq using "unconventional bombs such as biological and dirty bombs". The tape's authenticity could not be verified.
Posted by:Fred

#22  Those priorities work for me, tw.

PS: Good one, NS.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-29 20:02  

#21  First Iran. Then Pakistan while interdicting Saudi finances completely. Then we'll se if the Saudis still run Arabia, and take next steps based on that. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-09-29 17:35  

#20  Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are in a dead heat (as it were) for massive retaliation. I say we should nail Pakistan first just to confiscate or disable their nuclear weapons.

More than ever before, I think we need to consider taking possession of Mecca (and possibly Medina), and holding them hostage against further terrorist attacks. Withholding one of the pillars of Islam from its followers would have a direct and devastating impact upon the entire Muslim world. I can think of few other goads to encourage abandonment of jihad and the reform of Islam.

People can argue all they want about how this will only enrage the Muslim world. Let the jihadis come and try to retake their shrines. It would be the ultimate flypaper. If anything, Iraq has proven the usefulness of that concept. Personally, I'm sick and tired of worrying about easily offended Muslim sensibilities. If Beslan wasn't sufficiently convincing, the cartoonifada should have served final notice that this one is for all the marbles.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-29 16:24  

#19  Wait, wait a minute the Pakistani coach is coming onto the field to lodge a protest against the Saudi selection. And he's got his scimitar out...
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-09-29 16:22  

#18  countries who continue to flood this world with terrorist killers must find their cities in ruins

And the winner and first recipent of "city ruin" is.....! Soodie Arabia!
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-09-29 15:56  

#17  Offer them Lynn Stewart instead.
Posted by: john   2006-09-29 15:52  

#16  Furners? Whatever.

Fine, then we agree. I, too, am not ready to line American citizens or immigrants against the wall for the misdeeds of some foreign cretin. What needs to happen is that countries who continue to flood this world with terrorist killers must find their cities in ruins. When enough Muslims who silently acquiesce to or vocally support their government's covert terrorist activities finally have their walls crashing down about their ears, they might begin to rethink how they support terrorism. If not, they'll soon be dead and the net result will be the same.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-29 14:03  

#15  Zen, I read your comment as meaning we should take action agains muzzie Americans for actions by Foreign illegal combatants on Americans in America. On re-reading, I think I misread you. Apologies.

I don't lump American muzzies into some universal muzzie group and that was the source of my reaction. My basic position is that Americans are Americans first until they individually demonstrated otherwise. Furners? Whatever.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-09-29 13:50  

#14  I understand the emotional source of this statement, but rationally, I have a hard time signing on. It is a repudiation of everything our system stands for. If we are to cast people out, it should be done so one person at a time following due process. If not, we should recognize that we have descended into civil war. We are far from that and have endured worse without such recourse.

NS, I understand your compunctions and I can only say that at one point I shared such trepidations. Sooner or later we are going to have to show our enemey how unwise their choice of terms is. If they wish to impose collective punishment, and there can be no more precise example than terrorism, then we must consider imposing it upon them.

I know you have yet to decide about Muslims in the military. I, like yourself, found exJAG's arguments extremely persuasive and now concur with her. This can only mean that you, at least, accept the war-time model and no longer view the war on terrorism as any sort of police action.

I, too, believe that America is at war. The barbarians are, indeed, at the gates if not already in Dearborn our own front yard. We are being threatened with nuclear terrorist attacks at their earliest possible opportunity. Go back to the top of this page, look at Rahman's photo, and ask yourself if that cretin would not have used nuclear weapons against America if he had only had them.

Our use of collective punishment will not be a repudiation of everything that America stands for. It will be a concession that our enemy requires measures we are normally loath to take but are obliged to implement against those who feel no sanctity for human life.

Nowhere do I see you protesting Israel's bulldozing of Palestinian homes in reprisal for a single family member's terrorist activity. That, too, is collective punishment. So is their withholding of electrical power and water service to the terrortories. Yes, this is a slippery slope, but all of us must have faith in our own moral traction to know that we will not descend into utter barbarity, remembering always that our enemy already blocks the path thereto.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-29 13:27  

#13  Slightly off topic, but why is Tater still consuming O2?
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2006-09-29 11:09  

#12  Let it be widely known that this scumbag is deceased fro "natural" causes. Make it so.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat   2006-09-29 11:02  

#11  Nice shades.
Posted by: Thoth   2006-09-29 10:44  

#10  "Islam is the perfect faith for the loser criminal element in our society and that is where it is growing most quickly"
Well, that and rebellious suburban kids, and the kind of woman who falls for death-row felons...
Which would explain the general caliber of Islamic converts, generally...
Posted by: Sgt. Mom   2006-09-29 08:35  

#9  why not just put this shithead in general population in prison. i'm sure it wouldn't take long for him too go down

You've got to be kidding me! He'd turn the prison into a Madrassa. What do you think is going on inside these days? Islam is the perfect faith for the loser criminal element in our society and that is where it is growing most quickly.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-09-29 08:03  

#8  why not just put this shithead in general population in prison. i'm sure it wouldn't take long for him too go down
Posted by: sinse   2006-09-29 07:49  

#7  We really need to establish collective reprisal as a specific term of engagement with these Islamic maggots.

I understand the emotional source of this statement, but rationally, I have a hard time signing on. It is a repudiation of everything our system stands for. If we are to cast people out, it should be done so one person at a time following due process. If not, we should recognize that we have descended into civil war. We are far from that and have endured worse without such recourse.

I would, however, question why immigrants from countries that are not allies in the war on terror or fully prepared to adopt our culture continue to be admitted to the country and granted citizenship.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-09-29 05:54  

#6  Extradite him to Iraq, where they can stake him out for the friken vultures

I'll settle for a mysterious shanking in his prison cell. Don't want to risk him getting away or anything.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-29 05:49  

#5  A fine demonstration of why we need to consider automatic death penalties for any foreign combatants who attempt atrocities on American soil.

Fjordman's last article made the extremely cogent point that dhimmis living in an Islamic society are all subject to collective punishment for the misdeed of a single kuffar.

We really need to establish collective reprisal as a specific term of engagement with these Islamic maggots. If they take a single American hostage, we start blowing away prisoners or blocks of insurgent areas until our people are released.

I dread to think of what sort of atrocity it will take before our politicians and military finally begin applying Islam's own punishments to Muslim terrorists. We absolutely have to get over this Order of the Garter bullshit before another three thousand of our troops die.

Rahman should have been deep-fried minutes after his guilty verdict was handed down. We are going to have to learn the hard way that captive terrorists will used as excuses for the most gruesome hostage takings. Do we really need our own Beslan atrocity right here, stateside, to prove this?
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-29 05:47  

#4  Extradite him to Iraq, where they can stake him out for the friken vultures
Posted by: Oldspook   2006-09-29 01:41  

#3  Expose him to some mercury fumes or something and send him on his way. Oh, wait, I doubt they'd notice any change in his behavior . . . .
Posted by: gorb   2006-09-29 01:19  

#2  Oh, yes, the blind Santa. Send him back in little pieces.
Posted by: Captain America   2006-09-29 00:55  

#1  "Biological and Dirty Bombs" > ANOTHER DUBYA MISTAKE BECUZ NO WMDS HERE.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-09-29 00:45  

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