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Home Front: Culture Wars
YJCMTSU: Girls' room his, too
2006-10-26
Transgender men free to use ALL of MTA's loos
The line for the girls' room just got longer. Men who live as women can now legally use women's rest rooms in New York's transit system under an unprecedented deal revealed yesterday.

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority agreed to allow riders to use MTA rest rooms "consistent with their gender expression," the Transgender Legal Defense and Education Fund announced yesterday. The group filed a complaint against the MTA on behalf of a 70-year-old telephone repair technician who was arrested for using the women's room at Grand Central Terminal.

The technician, who is assigned to the terminal by Verizon, was born Henry McGuinness but now goes by Helena Stone. "I'm a 24-hour woman," Stone declared proudly. "I just feel like a woman and I like to wear women's clothes."

The MTA would not comment on the settlement but Stone's lawyer said it also includes mandatory transgender sensitivity training for MTA employees and a $2,000 payment to the technician for legal fees. Michael Sullivan, Stone's lawyer, called the settlement of the complaint with the Human Rights Commission a "milestone" toward recognition of the city law that prohibits discrimination against transgender men and women.

But some Metro-North riders at Grand Central yesterday were stunned by the ruling. "I would not like that," said Gloria David, a retiree from Connecticut. "I have nothing against gay men or drag queens, but they can use the men's room. I just don't want to go to the bathroom next to a man."

One rider feared predators might dress as women and lurk in the women's room.

But Rena Gantz, 23, a properly indoctrinated college student, shrugged off the settlement. "It doesn't bother me because it is a reality," she said. "If they believe they are women, they should be treated as one."
Simply brilliant.
Posted by:.com

#21  Something like this really happened at Motorola in Los Angeles during the 80s. Once again it was the women who objected.

We had a DBA who was changing genders (it was a 2 year process), and the question came up which room "it" should use.

He wanted to be called Sheila, but everyone called him "He-la".

Al
Posted by: frozen al   2006-10-26 16:08  

#20  FRANCIS: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother. Sister. Sorry.
REG: What's the point?
FRANCIS: What?
REG: What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies when he can't have babies?!
FRANCIS: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
REG: Symbolic of his struggle against reality.
Posted by: mcsegeek1   2006-10-26 14:20  

#19  Lol, ed. So, um, it just means they'll be "trained" not to lift the lid, first...
Posted by: .com   2006-10-26 13:21  

#18  that is so funny - I was thinking about making up a snarky comment along those lines but truth is stranger than fiction!

Things won't really be "equal" in the true sense of the word today, until the lesbians win their inevitable demand that you have to cut it off and give it to them.
Posted by: anon   2006-10-26 13:15  

#17  I will tell dear ole granny I already washed my hands in the bowl.

Anon, you laugh now.
Posted by: ed   2006-10-26 12:50  

#16  It could be a problem about the toilet seat up and down issue, but pretty soon they will have minders to make sure you all pee sitting down.
Posted by: anon   2006-10-26 12:41  

#15  Think this through, Ed. Do you guys REALLY want your mothers, wives, aunts to be there and insist you wash your hands afterwards???
Posted by: lotp   2006-10-26 12:39  

#14  That's not what I hear. Unisex bathrooms will be lined only with stand up troughs. Then men will get to complain about women's aim.
Posted by: ed   2006-10-26 12:37  

#13  How Vicious! Vindictive! Vengeful! Venomous!

You aren't my ex, are ya?

;->
Posted by: .com   2006-10-26 12:36  

#12  The result of this in airports etc. will be lounges with individual toilet rooms and the mirrors and wash sinks being shared by for both sexes. And the best part about it will be that men will have to wait in line just like the we do ;-)
Posted by: anon   2006-10-26 12:30  

#11  Oh, enough already, just do your business in the bushes, and let's be done with that!
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-10-26 10:49  

#10  The Metropolitan Transportation Authority agreed to allow riders to use MTA rest rooms "consistent with their gender expression,"...

Rhetorical question. So you're at the Streisand concert at the Garden, Helena, and the line for the lady's room is out the door. There is no line at the men's room.
How "consistent is your gender expression" now?
Posted by: tu3031   2006-10-26 10:37  

#9  Next up: A $1,000 fine for laughing at a tranny.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2006-10-26 10:26  

#8  "Hey, GK, look over there. Is that a woman or a man?"
"If there's any doubt about it, I ain't interested."
Posted by: GK   2006-10-26 08:22  

#7  By the way, I've always wondered : which lavatory does Ranma use?
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-10-26 07:03  

#6  Why bother having restrooms segregated by sex? It would save money and lawyers valuable time if we just had one ditch on the side of the road for everyone.
Posted by: BrerRabbit   2006-10-26 06:29  

#5  I can see why women don't want to go potty with a 6'4" 250 pound "gal" in a dress, pony tail and falsies. And yes I did see that in a large corporate environment and took all my self control to keep from falling down laughing.
Posted by: ed   2006-10-26 06:23  

#4  Does this mean a bull dyke can use the men's room?

One would think.
Posted by: Mark Z   2006-10-26 06:14  

#3  mandatory transgender sensitivity : check.
$2,000 payment : check.
law that prohibits discrimination : check (see two above).

Yup, all is going swell, along the lines defined by the Forces of Progress.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-10-26 03:51  

#2  "Where's the Palestine Liberation front?"

"He's over there..."
Posted by: badanov   2006-10-26 00:54  

#1  Something tells me that if Rena were to see the "Loretta" scene in Life of Brian, she wouldn't get the joke.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie   2006-10-26 00:50  

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