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Home Front: Politix
Democrats' sad heritage in wartime
2006-11-23
When Congresswoman Pelosi referred to the war against terrorism as a “situation to be resolved,” it became clear to me that she will make sure that Democrats live up to the Democrat heritage of leaving the conflict in Iraq completely unresolved.

After World War I, President Wilson established their heritage by accepting an “armistice” to end the conflict, leaving Germany in a position to resume the conflict a generation later.

During World War II, presidents Roosevelt and Truman were encumbered by the constraint imposed when Churchill demanded “unconditional surrender” to totally end the conflict. As a result, both Germany and Japan gave political freedoms to their people and became allies and trading partners.
Posted by:Fred

#11  Also, Kennedy pulled the air cover from the Bay of Pigs invasion.
Talk about a donk war fuckup. People died and were imprisoned. Without air cover, they had no chance.
Honorable mention to Janet Reno though. She attacked and annihilated those Branch Davidians with few loses.
Posted by: wxjames   2006-11-23 23:50  

#10  Respectfully disagree OS: from the attached link: a Douglas bird. The B-17 did indeed have many iterations before it flew, but this wasn't one of them.
http://www.military.cz/usa/air/war/bomber/b19/b19_en.htm
Posted by: USN,Ret   2006-11-23 22:26  

#9  The bird on the poster is an early version of the B-17. It saw many alterations before it actually went into combat.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2006-11-23 17:44  

#8  Thanks Mike; I knew it ws a Douglas bird by the cockpit profile, but couldn't remember the designation......
Posted by: USN,Ret   2006-11-23 14:44  

#7  Ship-
That's the Douglas B-19, a contemporary of the B-17. It was a one-off heavy bomber prototype that stayed in service through most of the war as a transport - my Dad remembers seeing it in Cleveland after a heavy landing that kept it at the old Cleveland Airport for a couple months until it could get repaired.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2006-11-23 11:58  

#6  During World War II, presidents Roosevelt and Truman were encumbered by the constraint imposed when Churchill demanded “unconditional surrender” to totally end the conflict.

Just plain wrong. Roosevelt announced the goal of unconditional surrender in a presser at Casablanca without even warning Churchill. Winnie was aghast because it removed hope of cutting a deal with the German military to overthrow Hitler in exchange for leniency. As a result of Roosevelt's unconsidered statement, all Germans were thrown into the same tub as Hitler; and he didn't let them forget it.

The author would have been better served to go back farther in history to the Spanish American War, the Indian Wars and the Civil War. Roosevelt is the exception in a Democrat streak of yellow that goes back 150 years. And that was in spite of one party donk rule of the south most of that time.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-11-23 09:18  

#5  OS, interesting point on the origin of that line from Aliens. Thanks!
Posted by: Raj   2006-11-23 08:58  

#4   His efforts on behalf of those oppressed by Islamist Communist regimes resulted in an unending series of useless inquests and congressional hearings aimed a discrediting his administrationÂ’s staff.

History does repeat itself, doesn't it?
Posted by: Raj   2006-11-23 08:57  

#3  That poster kinda looks like this odd bird...
Posted by: Shipman   2006-11-23 05:49  

#2  ". He also gave idiotic orders that prevented ship-board Marine guards from having ammunition in their weapons with the pretense of avoiding an “incident,” thus leaving the U.S. Navy war ship Cole vulnerable to attack by the terrorists."

We had similar orders in Germany when on guard duty back in the 80's, guarding an ammunition bunker. Thats where the "What are we supposed to do, use harsh language?" line in Aliens came from.
Posted by: OldSpook   2006-11-23 01:52  

#1  I can't help noticing Kennedy's name is missing from this roster of Presidents. No, not the fat, drunken one with the poor driving record. I mean JFK. You know - Cuban Missile Crisis, "Ich bin ein Berliner". Yeah, I know it means "I am a doughnut", but his heart was in the right place when it came to standing up to commie tyrants. He was a Democrat. Boy, have times changed.
Posted by: SteveS   2006-11-23 01:42  

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