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China-Japan-Koreas
Discontent heard among North Koreans
2006-12-11
Hat tip Orrin Judd.
Many North Koreans are now aware of the poverty of their country and are voicing discontent after years of near-starvation, according to the fullest study yet conducted of refugees from the Stalinist dictatorship.

While the popular image of North Koreans is of a nation living in blissful ignorance of the outside world and unquestioning loyalty to the leadership of Kim Jong-il, refugees interviewed while in hiding in China reported that there were increasing signs of dissent.
Kimmie's survived coup attempts before, when he had the Chinese solidly in his corner. Wonder if they're still there, and whether he'd survive another coup attempt?
Eighty per cent of those questioned said North Koreans no longer believed official propaganda that living standards were better than in capitalist South Korea. In reality, income per head is 20 to 30 times higher in the South. Nine in 10 of the refugees agreed that inside the country "North Koreans are voicing their concerns about chronic food shortages".

"Resentment toward the North Korean leadership for the continued hardship in the country is high," they said.
If Ronald Reagan were around today he'd find a way to nudge the North Koreans and give Kimmie a push.
Televisions remain tuned to one government channel and other sources of information are tightly censored, but news about life in neighbouring China, where living standards have fast outstripped their own, was seeping through by word of mouth.

The findings match other reports that radios are illegally altered to pick up South Korean broadcasts, and mobile phones smuggled over the border from China enable some people to speak to relatives outside.
Make sure we broadcast how the nuke program has been cutting into the food aid. Make sure in particular that the NKor Army knows it.
The 1,300 people questioned by the bipartisan US Committee on Human Rights in North Korea revealed harrowing details of the hunger, imprisonment, and torture they had suffered and witnessed. Ten per cent of respondents reported having been in prison or labour camps. Of those, nine out of 10 had witnessed someone dying of starvation, three quarters someone dying under torture, and seven per cent a case of infanticide.
Whoever pushes Kimmie out is going to be a hero. Might as well be us.
Posted by:Steve White

#12  Seems to me that with our technology we should be able to use the NKor's own radio and TV frequencies and override their own broadcasting facilities in order to share the real news.....even if they were to shut down or attempt to jam, we would still control it.
and Kimmie thoughtfully provided all those receivers already!!!! no need to air drop or otherwise smuggle any in!
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2006-12-11 14:16  

#11  That giant hotel was never finished, the interior of the part that was finished is decaying, and the elevators are an iffy proposition. Which means if you are above the fifth floor, sucks to be you. Oh, the water supply in the Pyongyang is questionable too - all sorts of microbal visitors come in each glassful.
Posted by: Shieldwolf   2006-12-11 14:14  

#10  Crazy Fool, what do you mean? They have that giant hotel in the middle of the capital. You must have seen the pictures!
Posted by: Eric Jablow   2006-12-11 14:00  

#9  That isn't discontent we hear, it's just stomach rumbling.

bark soup: peasants did not meet production quotas this year.
Posted by: RD   2006-12-11 13:55  

#8  That isn't discontent we hear, it's just stomach rumbling.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2006-12-11 10:00  

#7  We'll never get him out now. The
Dems will have us hamstrung, much to our chagrin, until 2008 at least.
Posted by: Hupaise Hupase6228   2006-12-11 09:34  

#6  Thirded.
Posted by: Mike N.   2006-12-11 09:10  

#5  .com, I'd second those comments.
Posted by: phil_b   2006-12-11 03:43  

#4  Where's the Human Rights Commission on this? Wheres Human Rights Watch? Where's AmNasty International?

1. There's no Western nation involved.

2. They're not the 'right kind of people'.

3. No matter how bad it is, it's still a "Worker's Paradise".
Posted by: Pappy   2006-12-11 01:13  

#3  The mentality seems to have 2 primary components:

1) You touch it, you own it. That implies nation-building - and I'm sure we're out of that business... at least until we have a DhimmiDonk Prez, then it'll be okie-fine.

2) Everyone waits for us to act because they're incapable of acting... which is beyond convenient when you haven't the stones in the first place which is why you haven't the capability in the second.

We are in a lose-lose position until we make it clear we are NOT the World Police and that we are permanently OUT of the Nation-Building game. We'll break what we find that's dangerous, and repeat as necessary. That's it.

My 2 cents.
Posted by: .com   2006-12-11 00:50  

#2  Whoever pushes Kimmie out is going to be a hero. Might as well be us.

Wasn't the same thing said about Sammy?

BTW: Where's the Human Rights Commission on this? Wheres Human Rights Watch? Where's AmNasty International? Too busy complaining about the temprature in a GITMO interrogation room I guess...

And since North Korea has no 5-star hotels (with 24 hour catering) the Vampire Vulture Elite of the UN don't give a shit either.

People will think Rwanda was a walk in the park when North Korea finally opens up and they see the truth.....
Posted by: CrazyFool   2006-12-11 00:43  

#1  As an XPert(s)-alleged CRIMINAL/MAFIA STATE + REGIME, the NorKors are the only Nation/State-level, Global? "Syndicate" or Mafia, etc. thats starving beyond starving.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-12-11 00:27  

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