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India-Pakistan
Hitler a cool hero to many Indians
2006-12-29
When an Adolf Hitler-themed restaurant opened in a suburb of cosmopolitan Mumbai in August, many were horrified. The restaurant, Hitlers Cross, changed its name a week later to the Cross Cafe, but it is not the only example of how favourably some Indians view Hitler and his legacy.
Hindu fundamentalist groups praise Hitler's leadership skills. A university poll some years ago showed he was seen as an ideal leader. Books and videos of him are top sellers.

Most patrons still call the Cross Cafe by its previous name. Plates and cups bear the Hitlers Cross logo, with a Nazi swastika in place of the "O". "We call it 'Hitler' only," said Ashish Anant, 18, an aeronautics university student who likes to come to the cafe with friends. "We say, 'Let's go to Hitler'. It's a trendy name. It's different."
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#18  Germany's economy was coming out of the Depression before Hitler took power -- he just piggybacked on the efforts of Weimar economists... and of course he didn't impose any painful measures on a populace grateful for that much relief from the craziness of the times.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-12-29 21:36  

#17  #16 I've (it's important to marry well) Methuen's Kiplings from 1913 to 1933 with elephant head + swastika
Posted by: gromgoru   2006-12-29 21:24  

#16  The swastika (facing the other way) is an ancient Buddhist (and Hindu) symbol. It is still used all over Asia.

In 1913 Doubleday put out an edition of Kipling's works in red cloth with a swastika on the cover. I have Departmental Ditties and Barrack-Room Ballads in this edition. Wish I could find some more of the series, before someone decides they're all eeeeevil and must be burnt.
Posted by: Angie Schultz   2006-12-29 18:14  

#15  ...Hitlers Cross, which serves only one marginally German item, German chocolate cake.

Which, of course, is not German at all.

Most be some talking points coming out of somewhere.

It's a linguistic thingy.
Posted by: Angie Schultz   2006-12-29 18:08  

#14  BH: I saw swastikas on shrines in Okinawa (pre-WWII of course).

The swastika (facing the other way) is an ancient Buddhist (and Hindu) symbol. It is still used all over Asia. Hitler adulation, however, is something Chinese, Indians and Muslims have in common.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2006-12-29 16:51  

#13  I saw swastikas on shrines in Okinawa (pre-WWII of course). They were faced to the left. I've seen other swastika symbols to the right (native american, etc.). Hitler purposely tilted the nazi swastika to make it look like to the viewer that it was moving or some such. I believe his swastika was taken to be a symbol of some sort from an aryan or norse sun god. I saw something on this on the History channel aka "the hitler channel."
Posted by: Broadhead6   2006-12-29 15:02  

#12  I believe Hitler flipped the swastika to face the other way. Sort of like how the Satanists use an upside down cross and the upside down pentacle exJAG talked about not long ago. Also, India was a big deal in Socialist Non-Aligned circles for a long time, so they would've absorbed a lot of more or less casual antisemitism and anti-Zionism... just as Japan was anti-Israel as a result of being pro-Palestinian to placate the Arab oil suppliers, even though most Japanese have never so much as seen a Jew from a distance and haven't a clue what the disagreement is about.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-12-29 13:14  

#11  Is it just me, or does that "hand on the hip" make uncle Adolf look extremely gay?

You. Seek counseling ;-)

Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-12-29 13:01  

#10  I think the tracing of aryan lineage to india was one of the results of 1930's reich science - I don't have a feel for the correctness of it. Aryan in this context would be separate from Nazi, the latter being a pro-aryan AND exclusionist party.

I think you can give some credit to Adolf for the autobahn, volkwagen, bringing germany out of recession, and some incredibly good lessons in "scarcity management"

Adolf unified germany, and made it undeniably strong. Of course none of these accomplishments balance out the death camps.

On a side note:
Is it just me, or does that "hand on the hip" make uncle Adolf look extremely gay?
Posted by: flash91   2006-12-29 12:57  

#9  Can't wait till they open the Reggie Dyer Pub next door.
Posted by: DMFD   2006-12-29 10:41  

#8  Actually, an Indian I work with (he's Jain...a off brand of Hinduism) claimed this to me recently too (that Indians were the original Aryans). Most be some talking points coming out of somewhere. He added too, that the Swastika was a religious symbol of good luck to them too (didn't mention the part about it being "tilted" for the Nazis' symbol).

I thought us in the AWGSG (Angry White Guy Support Group) there in our our breakroom (a coffee club for us conservatives) were all gonna hit the floor. And, this guy has been in the U.S. for more than 30 years, so he knows what Hitler was all about.
Posted by: BA   2006-12-29 10:20  

#7  Besoeker, Link? Point?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-12-29 09:58  

#6  Country Population 1939 Military deaths Civilian deaths Jewish Holocaust deaths Total deaths Deaths/ % of population
Greece[21] 7,200,000 20,000 209,000 71,000 300,000 4.17%
Hungary[22] 9,200,000 300,000 80,000 200,000 580,000 6.3%
Iceland[23] 120,000 200 200 0.17%
India[24] 386,000,000 87,000 1,500,000 1,587,000 0.41%

They must have phueching forgot eh?
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-12-29 09:53  

#5  Interviews with many young Indians indicated they had little idea of what Hitler actually did.

Looks like "dumbing down" ain't just happening here...
Posted by: tu3031   2006-12-29 09:45  

#4  Interesting Ed, The Roma or Gypsies were originally from India and of course were slaughtered en mass with the Jews. Nice post.
Posted by: Rightwing   2006-12-29 09:41  

#3  Obviously hadn't heard what happened to the Gypsies.
Posted by: ed   2006-12-29 09:04  

#2  Any different than Che chic around any lefty ghetto in the US?
Posted by: Procopius2K   2006-12-29 09:03  

#1  I have heard Iranians say they are the original Aryan race. I have heard Sikhs lay claim to this. WTF?
Posted by: JohnQC   2006-12-29 07:30  

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