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Chirac tells U.S. to join climate protocol or face taxes
2007-02-01
Boy, this is going to go over well in the States ...
President Jacques Chirac has demanded that the United States sign both the Kyoto climate protocol and a future agreement that would take effect when that accord ran out in 2012. He welcomed the reference by President George W. Bush in his State of the Union address last week to climate change as a "serious challenge," and acknowledged that local politicians in the United States appeared to endorse emission cuts.

But in an interview, Chirac warned that if Washington did not join a global climate accord, a Europewide carbon tax on imports from nations that have not signed the Kyoto Protocol could be imposed to try to force U.S. compliance. The European Union is the largest export market for U.S. goods.
Conversely, Europe sells a lot of stuff to the U.S., stuff we just might be able to get along without, if you think about it ...
"A carbon tax is inevitable," Chirac said. "If it is European, and I believe it will be European, then it will all the same have a certain influence because it means that all the countries that do not accept the minimum obligations will be obliged to pay."

Trade lawyers have been divided over the legality of a carbon tax, with some saying it would contravene international trade rules. But Chirac said that other European countries would back it. "I believe we will have all of the European Union," he said.
And you won't have a trade treaty to enforce it. And you could kiss Doha goodbye ...
At a time when many Western policymakers consider that the biggest challenge will be to persuade China and India to limit their emissions, Chirac appeared hopeful. "I am less pessimistic than many about emerging countries, notably China," he said. "The problems are so serious that they cannot be managed, especially because of their social consequences.
"But we Euros, we can fail to manage anything!"
One way or another, the problem has to be dealt with. China specialists say that these days a lot of the social problems have at their origin environmental problems."

Chirac repeated his call for the creation of a world environment organization that would centralize about 500 international agreements on the environment and 18 international bodies and departments whose remit is environmental.
Because when you think of centralization, you think of France ...
"The system is not efficient; it's a fragmented system," Chirac said. "We must have a UNOE — a UN organization for the environment — which would in some sense be the environmental conscience of the world and which would be capable of coordinated action."
Run by French apparatchiks, of course ...
He said such an organization would have the power to impose sanctions on member states and could be modeled on the World Health Organization.
Posted by:Steve White

#23  Woooha. With the Dimmicrats semi in power france might get away with this.

Lest we forget it was Chirac that said Iran having a nuclear bomb is no big deal. This coming from a man who doesn't seem to mind Paris burning.
Posted by: Icerigger   2007-02-01 14:19  

#22  
This really translates as the Frog Economy sux, so they've gotta try and tax-down the US economy.

BTW doesn't this belong in "Todays Idiot"
Posted by: macofromoc   2007-02-01 12:36  

#21  The next time there is a war in Europe, the looser gets France.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-02-01 12:21  

#20  Excuse me, Jacques. Did you say something?
Posted by: tu3031   2007-02-01 11:47  

#19  And why do these clowns have a seat on the UN Security Council and not Japan? Just asking.

One of the many mistakes arising from treating France as an Allied power in WWII. They spent the war collaborating and sucked back their vampiric empire afterwards. My granddad used to say we should have let the Germans deal with them for a few more years.
Posted by: Excalibur   2007-02-01 11:41  

#18  Why don't they get it ? The SUN heats up the earth and all the other planets in a cycling fashion. We had been in the cooler part of that cycle, and now we are going into the warmer part. There is not a single thing that can be done within our abilities to avoid that.
We cannot shade the earth. We cannot move the earth. What we can do is sell our shore house while the going price is still high.
Posted by: wxjames   2007-02-01 10:46  

#17  Of course this is just a power grab.

There is no proveable human input to the minor global warming that has occurred since about the 1850 end of the Little Ice Age. (Gee after an ice age it got warmer, who'd a thunk it)

Glacier? What glacier? I ain't seen no glacier.
Posted by: AlanC   2007-02-01 10:39  

#16  Of course, this tax would affect imports from China, too, and since the EU (especially France) is doing all it can to suck up to the Chinese, I don't see this going anywhere. A UN enviro organization, on the other hand, I could see coming about. God save us from EUro mandarins.
Posted by: Spot   2007-02-01 09:52  

#15  LOL! Pull the trigger, Shiraq! I double-dog dare ya. I can do without whine and cheese, but can France do w/o US products? I think not, lol!
Posted by: BA   2007-02-01 09:51  

#14  Have we been down this road before, Chirac? Are you feeling lucky? Well, are you punk?
I'll break your mantle piece.
Posted by: newc   2007-02-01 09:47  

#13  Fuck him. We are already gonna get taxed with the Democrats in office....
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-02-01 08:15  

#12  And why do these clowns have a seat on the UN Security Council and not Japan? Just asking.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2007-02-01 07:46  

#11  Jacques Chirac favors us again with his unique wisdom: Chirac retracts remark on nuclear-armed Iran
French President Jacques Chirac has told US and French journalists that a nuclear-armed Iran would not be "very dangerous", but later retracted his comments, according to reports published Thursday. "Having one or perhaps a second bomb a little later, well that's not very dangerous," Chirac said in the interview on Monday to the New York Times, the Paris-based International Herald Tribune and the French weekly Nouvel Observateur. "Where would Iran drop this bomb ? On Israel ?" he asked. "It would not have gone off 200 meters into the atmosphere before Tehran would be razed to the ground," Chirac was quoted as saying by the three publications.

The French president called back the journalists to the Elysee Palace on Tuesday and asserted that he was retracting the statement. "I should have paid better attention to what I was saying and understood that perhaps I was on the record," Chirac was quoted by the IHT as saying. "It was an oversimplification...It is a formulation that I am taking back," the Nouvel Observateur quoted him as saying.
Posted by: ed   2007-02-01 07:04  

#10  US pollution control standards are higher than the Kyoto protocols. Euros are socialists first, dhimms second, environmentalists third. Chirac should move to Iran to be close to his masters.
Posted by: Sneaze   2007-02-01 06:34  

#9  ed, that's not entirely accurate. The Airbus superjumbo is currently highly emissions friendly. Of course, once they actually fulfill some of the orders and get those birds flying, that's going to change. ;)

But it is fascinating how all of a sudden airliners have been discovered to be emissions monsters at about the same time that Airbus first revealed how badly they are screwing up. Coincidence?
Posted by: Swamp Blondie   2007-02-01 06:26  

#8  Translation:

We want to keep our fussy little socialist/regulatory perks, but the regulations and taxes required make our businesses unable to compete with the U.S. and the Pacific Rim, so we'll invent a "crisis" to use as a big stick to smash those nations into a less competitive mode in order to prop up our own economies.
Posted by: no mo uro   2007-02-01 06:06  

#7  "We must have a UNOE — a UN organization for the environment — which would in some sense be the environmental conscience of the world and which would be capable of coordinated action."

"Conscience"? "Coordinated action"? The UN? ROFLMAO!!!!!

Posted by: Dave D.   2007-02-01 05:42  

#6  Note that this is the head of the "conservative" party in France. What a doofus.

In his youth he sold the communist paper. In fact he was investigated by the French secret services.
Posted by: JFM   2007-02-01 04:38  

#5  Note that this is the head of the "conservative" party in France. What a doofus.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2007-02-01 01:57  

#4  I can think of nothing more polluting than Airbus airliners, especially those widebodies produced in Toulouse. Close behind are millions of high priced BMWs and Mercedes cars.

2006 US trade deficit with Europe: $128.4 billion. Makes me wish the US fires the first volley in a tariff war.
Posted by: ed   2007-02-01 01:05  

#3  and we should pay attention to anything that Chirac says, why? This doofus is all hat and no cattle.
Posted by: RWV   2007-02-01 00:54  

#2  The EU will lose a tariff war. Chirac's an idiot.
Posted by: Slirong Ulaiger4307   2007-02-01 00:53  

#1  Let's see: Taxes, or 10 times that much in economic burden. Hmm.
Posted by: gorb   2007-02-01 00:10  

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