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Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Intra Paleo Gaza conflict Feb 2 - 10 new fatalities
2007-02-02
17 killed since collapse of Fatah-Hamas cease-fire
At least 10 Palestinians were killed Friday (as of early afternoon local time) in clashes between Hamas and Fatah, bringing the total number of fatalities since a brief cease-fire collapsed Thursday to 17, Palestinian sources said midday Friday. Some 170 have been wounded in the fierce fighting...
Egyptian Newpapers (controlled by the govt.) have been blaming Hamas which means Egypt is probably sending weapons to Fatah.
Posted by:mhw

#22  Damnit... stop adding good news.

My face hurts from grinning too much and my eyes hurt from the fat chicks pic...
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-02-02 15:29  

#21  I made sure to not say: "there was never a western country in which this sort of conflict could REMOTELY happen."

Like to take a crack at the future tense? I'm thinking France 2025 or Germany 2030. Or Aztlan 2015.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-02-02 15:04  

#20  LH:

understood. and agreed.

But I said: "there is not a western country in which this sort of conflict could REMOTELY happen."

I made sure to not say: "there was never a western country in which this sort of conflict could REMOTELY happen."

Muslims blame Europe for the Crusades, too.
Posted by: PlanetDan   2007-02-02 14:59  

#19  Maybe civil war is a way of maturing out of a bloodthirsty winner take all attitude to a desire for order and peace.
Naaaa, never mind.
Love the pic.
Posted by: wxjames   2007-02-02 14:55  

#18  oops, should be Spain 1936-1939, of course.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2007-02-02 14:25  

#17  "There is not a western country in which this sort of conflict could REMOTELY happen, even though there are factions that hate each other at least as much in our societies."

Spain, 1936-59.
Russia, 1918-1921
Finland, 1918 (or was it 1919?)
Hungary, 1919
France, The Vendee, 1791-1796 (or so)
France, 1871
Ireland 1920 (?)

Thats omitting the unpleasantness in the USA 1861-1865, which arguably is different, cause it was a secession more than a civil war about power WITHIN a state. And was fought according to more or less civilized rules (Not that that prevented it from being a horror anyway)

But if you want to see barbarism, the Vendee, the Russian civil war, etc all had plenty.

Civil wars happen. When they do, they are royally bad. Its just the Pals turn now, thats all.

Lets hope it kills off mainly gunnies, not civvies, and that Hamas loses, but that AAMB suffers most of all the Fatah linked groups.

Posted by: liberalhawk   2007-02-02 14:24  

#16  What is it with the graphic? Rosie and friends out testing the latest in Seismic detectors????
please pass the steel wool and Drano.
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2007-02-02 14:12  

#15  >"Gaza is being burned down," ?? WTF??? I thought just last week or so there was much gnashing of (rotten) teeth to effect that there was no infrastructure left following the invasion of the Jooos in the recent past....
this doesn't compute.
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2007-02-02 14:10  

#14  Update: 2 Universities ablaze, over 21 killed in the last 24 hours, people afraid to come out of their houses. In other words, even more of a hellhole.

These are the "people" Israel is supposed to negotiate with? Daniel Pipes had it right. This is not a clash of civilizations, but civilization vs. barbarism. And when you remove the civilized, the barbarous flourish. There is not a western country in which this sort of conflict could REMOTELY happen, even though there are factions that hate each other at least as much in our societies.

I just wonder what happens if Hamas wins. I guess Israel completely disengages, but al Qaeda, Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood (and their friends) have free reign in the region.
Posted by: PlanetDan   2007-02-02 12:58  

#13  forgit the popcorn, lets send mo ammo!
Posted by: RD   2007-02-02 11:33  

#12  What I wonder is. With all these children---and other innocent bystanders---being killed; why don't we hear anything from HRW, UN, Amnesia INtarnation?
Posted by: gromgoru   2007-02-02 11:33  

#11  >"Gaza is being burned down," Arafat Abu Eyad said from his smoke-filled balcony overlooking smoldering buildings.

And the downside is..... ?
Posted by: Besoeker   2007-02-02 11:29  

#10  I don't think popcorn does it anymore. Someone's gonna have to breakout the grill...

Gaza fighting escalates as Hamas seizes Fatah bases

GAZA (Reuters) - Fighting between Palestinian factions escalated across Gaza on Friday, killing at least 15 people as Hamas overran compounds used by President Mahmoud Abbas's forces and two major universities were set ablaze.

Residents of the narrow coastal strip, home to 1.5 million Palestinians, hid in their homes instead of attending Friday prayers as the rivals fought running gun battles with rifles and rocket-propelled grenades from streets and rooftops.

"Gaza is being burned down," Arafat Abu Eyad said from his smoke-filled balcony overlooking smoldering buildings.
Posted by: tu3031   2007-02-02 11:27  

#9  I'm gonna run out of beer with the constant celebrations....
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-02-02 10:15  

#8  pass the floss?
Posted by: Frank G   2007-02-02 10:01  

#7  Darn. I'm starting to gain (more) weight from all the popcorn.
Posted by: Rambler   2007-02-02 09:48  

#6  Believe me, it didn't take Nostradamus to figure that one out...
Posted by: tu3031   2007-02-02 09:43  

#5  just as TU3031 predicted another truce is being negotiated (as of mid afternoon local time)
Posted by: mhw   2007-02-02 09:41  

#4  AP now says 21 killed in 24 hours.

fatah is attacking the Hamas controlled Islamic Univ, and the Interior Ministry.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2007-02-02 09:38  

#3  I think more paleos die during truces than during times of conflict.
Posted by: PlanetDan   2007-02-02 09:26  

#2  Coming soon: "Trucefire IX™: Let's Reload"...
Posted by: tu3031   2007-02-02 09:09  

#1  ...which means Egypt is probably sending weapons to Fatah.

Part of the fun of proxy wars is that *everyone* can have a dog in the fight.
Posted by: SteveS   2007-02-02 09:06  

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