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Home Front: Culture Wars
Gay Radicals Put Forth Fascist Initiative
2007-02-06
HT Drudge

Wash. Initiative would Force Married couples to have kids

02:34 PM PST on Monday, February 5, 2007

KING5.com Staff and Associated Press

OLYMPIA, Wash. - An initiative filed by proponents of same-sex marriage would require heterosexual couples to have kids within three years or else have their marriage annulled.

Initiative 957 was filed by the Washington Defense of Marriage Alliance. That group was formed last summer after the state Supreme Court upheld Washington's ban on same-sex marriage.

Under the initiative, marriage would be limited to men and women who are able to have children. Couples would be required to prove they can have children in order to get a marriage license, and if they did not have children within three years, their marriage would be subject to annulment.

All other marriages would be defined as "unrecognized" and people in those marriages would be ineligible to receive any marriage benefits.

“For many years, social conservatives have claimed that marriage exists solely for the purpose of procreation ... The time has come for these conservatives to be dosed with their own medicine," said WA-DOMA organizer Gregory Gadow in a printed statement. “If same-sex couples should be barred from marriage because they can not have children together, it follows that all couples who cannot or will not have children together should equally be barred from marriage."

Supporters must gather more than 224,000 valid signatures by July 6 to put the initiative on the November ballot.

Opponents say the measure is another attack on traditional marriage, but supporters say the move is needed to have a discussion on the high court ruling.
Posted by:BigEd

#25  #1 Besoeker - ROFLMAO!

You are so going to hell for that one. ;-p

(And I am so going with you for laughing.)
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2007-02-06 22:33  

#24  Yeah, tw. But a lot of the local dudes here wear them for surfing (the occasional cold water and jellyfish).
Posted by: Swamp Blondie   2007-02-06 22:10  

#23  lol, TW. Reminds me of the t-shirt this dork used to wear at school (a guy). "I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body".
Posted by: BA   2007-02-06 20:49  

#22  "entertainment is one HUGE tool for pushing agendas, much more than hard news; make people laughs at the good targets, make sure they understand that if they don't conform to certain dogmas and behaviors, they are to be laughed at.

Just think at the representation of the dad in many, many sitcoms and series, as opposed to mommy."

It's just another example of Gramscianism.

And nowadays, the distinction between news and entertainment has been so blurred that the term "infotainment" seems most useful to apply.
Posted by: no mo uro   2007-02-06 19:34  

#21  Thanks fo rthe clarification, Big Ed. Between your post and Besoeker's I was pretty convinced that I must be a male homosexual, too. You can't imagine how relieved I am to find that isn't necessarily so (and thank goodness Mr. Wife is safely ensconsed in Japan, 'cause he'd have found the situation quite unacceptable). ;-)

That looks like a wet suit to me, Swamp Blondie.
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-02-06 18:34  

#20  Hmm....any word if he scuba dives? ;)
Posted by: Swamp Blondie   2007-02-06 18:16  

#19  If you dont like political humor, i really dont see what youre doing at Rantburg.

Well, that and the buffet.
Posted by: Shipman   2007-02-06 17:32  

#18  Sorry... Oops my comment was directed at the other males, as the Besoeker post 's list implied... We'll put up a pix of that Navy Doc who will be on the reality TV show this spring, "The Bachelor" for the women posters... same comment would then apply...

Lt. Andrew (Andy) Baldwin, MD
Posted by: BigEd   2007-02-06 17:15  

#17  Sorry, Big Ed, she does nothing for me. (Much to the relief of my husband. ;) )
Posted by: Swamp Blondie   2007-02-06 17:03  

#16  I'm just surprised that no one did this sooner, especially considering that so many opposition to gay marriage groups kept going on about "marriage is for raising children" to the point of nausea. Obviously, it's not, since there is no current fertility test requirement in any state.

No guy could marry an 80 year old woman, or one who has had her tubes tied or a hysterectomy. And no woman could marry a guy with a vasectomy or persistent impotence. Contraception would not be allowed for married couples, only singles. If childbearing and rearing was the real reason for marriage, refusal to have children could be used as a reason for divorce like it is a reason for annulment in the Catholic Church.

All they're doing is calling those groups' bluff. Put up or shut up. I'd like to see if those same groups opposing gay marriage on childrearing grounds will support this initiative or will find some way to weasel out of it.

Posted by: Swamp Blondie   2007-02-06 17:01  

#15  

Besoeker : How about bottom line...
"If the above photo doesn't increase the blood pressure a few points, then you are gay..."

She is sooooooo cute!
Posted by: BigEd   2007-02-06 16:43  

#14  "Humor is VERY powerful, especialy in its derision form, where it help further moral equivalency and relativism."

Actually i think relativism is one of the more fun thinks to crack jokes at. Humor is a weapon against ANY fanaticism, and against anything thats not well thought out. See our posts here about Bangla keystone cops, about Palestinians and popcorn, about, oh a hundred different things. If you dont like political humor, i really dont see what youre doing at Rantburg.

Posted by: liberalhawk   2007-02-06 16:34  

#13  Humor is great! I find most liberals to be the butt of most of it. Keystone cops kinda thing.
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-02-06 16:11  

#12  a5089 may have a point--look at the Google Ads.
Posted by: Thogum Phomonter1654   2007-02-06 15:43  

#11  Gay Radicals Put Forth Fascist Initiative

The Ernst Rohm Olympia Sturmgruppen?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2007-02-06 15:40  

#10  No, really, entertainement is one HUGE tool for pushing agendas, much more than hard news; make people laughs at the good targets, make sure they understand that if they don't conform to certain dogmas and behaviors, they are to be laughed at.

Just think at the representation of the dad in many, many sitcoms and series, as opposed to mommy.

This is particulary true in France, with humor being used to turn into derision anything and everything that is even remotely linked with "frenchness" and conservatism.

Humor is VERY powerful, especialy in its derision form, where it help further moral equivalency and relativism.

And regarding "real" agitprop from leftists/trotskysts, it usually involves ridicule and outrageous behavior (think gay pride), like act up France crashing in during a mass at the Nôtre-Dame Cathedral to celebrate a mock homosexual marriage.

IMHO, this married-with-children initiative is not innocent, tongue-in-cheek humor, it's another blow in the culture war (AKA the forward drive of the Forces of Progress, always loking to gain ground, and never losing any inch of the ones they've gained).
Posted by: anonymous5089   2007-02-06 15:35  

#9  liberalhawk: Obviously some folks dont know when theyre being made fun of.

anon5089: Modern western Agitprop makes great use of humor and derision.

Oh. Oh! I'm O-ffended! Where's my check?
Posted by: eLarson   2007-02-06 15:20  

#8  WTF? Any good debater since Lincoln uses humor. Some of the best stuff the last few years has come from Scrappleface. Heck, some of the best is right here on Rantburg - ya know thats one of the reasons I started coming here, for the dark humor approach to the WOT. Helps get ya through the day.

I dont trust folks who dont have a sense of humor.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2007-02-06 14:00  

#7  Obviously some folks dont know when theyre being made fun of.

Modern western Agitprop makes great use of humor and derision.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2007-02-06 13:33  

#6  it seems this is making fun of the folks who say marriage is about kids. Even look at the name of the group. Obviously some folks dont know when theyre being made fun of.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2007-02-06 13:13  

#5  Did they even think about this first, or did they deliberately want to piss off the rest of Oregon? I think even those that supported gay marriage would respond to this with a rousing "Fuck You".
Posted by: DarthVader   2007-02-06 12:34  

#4  If you know more than six names of colors not associated with football teams... Because it's not hard to name the colors of three NFL Teams.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2007-02-06 12:30  

#3  LOL I just love it when Progressives shoot first and then aim.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2007-02-06 12:27  

#2  Oh, look, Ted. Maybe you could move up here?
Posted by: The Oversight Board   2007-02-06 12:25  

#1  GENTLEMEN, IT'S TIME FOR YOUR ANNUAL "AM I GAY?" SELF-EXAMINATION

1. If you are over forty, and you have a washboard stomach, you are gay. It means you haven't sucked back enough beer with the boys and have spent the rest of your free time doing sit-ups, aerobics, and doing the Oprah diet.

2. If you're single and have a cat, you are a Flaaaaming homo. A cat is like a dog, but gay - it grooms itself constantly but never scratches itself, has a delicate touch except when it uses its nails, and whines to be fed. And just think about how you call a dog ... "Killer, come here! I said get your ass over here, Killer!" Now think about how you call a cat ... "Bun-bun, come to daddy, snookums!" Jeeezus, you're fit to be framed, you're so gay.

3. If you suck on lollipops, Ring-Pops, baby pacifiers, or any such nonsense, rest assured, you are a Gaylord. A straight man only sucks on barbeque ribs, crab claws, raw oysters, crawfish guts, pickled pigs feet, etc. Anything else and you are in training and undeniably gay.

4. If you refuse to take a dump in a public bathroom or piss in a parking lot, you crave a deep homosexual relationship. A man's world is his bathroom; he defecates and urinates where he pleases.

5. If you drink decaf coffee with skim milk, you are on the road to gayville. Coffee is to be hard, strong, black, and full aroma. A straight man will never be heard ordering a "Decaf Cafe Latte with Skim" and he will never, ever know what artificial sweetener tastes like. If you've had NutraSweet in your mouth, ugh!

6. If you know more than six names of colors or four different types of dessert, you might as well be handing out free passes. A real man doesn't have memory space in his brain to remember all of that crap as well as all the names of all the players in the Major League, NFL, NHL, college ball, PGA and NASCAR. If you can pick out chartreuse or you know what a "fressier" is you're gay. And if you can name ANY type of textile other than denim, you are faggadocious.

7. If you drive with both hands on the wheel, forget it. A man only puts both hands on the wheel to honk at a slow-ass driver or to cut the punk off. The rest of the time he needs that hand to change the radio station, eat a hamburger, hold his beer, or play with his honey in the passenger seat.

Posted by: Besoeker   2007-02-06 12:21  

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